<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">“另外时间”：提供一段与主流生活经验不同的体验。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">“另外时间”是隶属于家园计划（AnotherLand）的非盈利项目，行动方式多变。</p>
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August 25, 2024
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">2024年8月，中国自给自足实验室创始人、<span>家园计划（AnotherLand）长期志愿者</span>唐冠华先生在东北七峰山生态村关于生活方式与社会转型的讲座录音。从早期原始文明讲到农业文明、工业文明、世界大战、资本游戏，提出了将旧世界归纳为“恐惧文明”的观点，对未来提出“爱的文明”的希冀。</p>
February 27, 2024
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style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>“</span>小地方<span>”</span>专题久违地更新了！抓住秋天的最后时刻，从大城市的紧张氛围中逃离，本期「螺丝在拧紧」来到了一个真正的小地方<span>——</span>云南省迪庆藏族自治州，维西傈僳族自治县塔城镇的启别村。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">面前是泛黄的田地、连绵的山脉，不远处有一棵枇杷树，头顶是湛蓝的天空和悠游的浮云<span>……</span>主播吴琦和两位长住云南的嘉宾身处其中，一起呼吸<span>“</span>季风之北，彩云之南<span>”</span>的空气，探寻鲜为人知的岔路。两位嘉宾中，一位是曾在媒体工作，与云南有着奇妙缘分，现居大理一年的安小庆，另一位是家园计划<span> (AnotherLand</span>）联合创始人，目前在昆明大墨雨村进行社区实践的唐冠华。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a8b3-audiofreehighqps/19/E7/GMCoOSYJIVqGAEdBswJ6gKRJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a8b3-audiofreehighqps/19/E7/GMCoOSYJIVqGAEdBswJ6gKRJ.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a8b3-audiofreehighqps/19/E7/GMCoOSYJIVqGAEdBswJ6gKRJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/a8b3-audiofreehighqps/19/E7/GMCoOSYJIVqGAEdBswJ6gKRJ.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"><br></span></p><p style="font-size:14px;line-height:24px;color:#999999;word-break:break-all;font-weight:normal;" data-flag="backup">（录制现场旁的一棵枇杷树，被主播不小心误认为桂花树）<br></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">云南为何吸引和包容着来自四方的陌生人？为什么是云南成为都市人身心复健的大后方？在拥有<span>“</span>树医生<span>”“</span>花医生<span>”“</span>云医生<span>”</span>的安小庆看来，<span>“</span>如果说有一个云南性的话，就是它的多元多样<span>”</span>。当如此丰富的自然之物直接地出现在人们面前时，<span>“</span>身心都会打开一下<span>”</span>。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">在云南，改变的不仅是与自然的关系，也是与人的关系。当本地人与外来者的生命之网互相交织时，那些抽象的矛盾在具体的生活中被化解：一起工作，学说大理话<span>“</span>苦钱<span>”</span>，在菜市场与本地人互动<span>……“</span>找到一个空间，有人协作，才能落地内容<span>”</span>，唐冠华说。在都市的标准之外，我们还可以从自然的运行中获得灵感，在另一种物质与文化流通的过程里，创造另一种关系法则。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期节目由「螺丝在拧紧」和东方草本可持续护肤与生活方式品牌东边野兽共同创作。东边野兽回到主要的原料产地，落地云南维西塔城的<span>“</span>东边绿洲<span>”</span>共益实践，为我们描摹出一种小地方与其内外部达成交流与生产的模式。<span> <span>“</span></span>很多新的创意和想法，可以是从岔路里面来的<span>”</span>，在边缘与主流的变动中，新的可能正在不断出现。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">｜时间线｜</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>04:24 </span>为什么向大后方云南转移？<span><br></span>唐冠华：在大墨雨村，我感受到没有中心的状态<span><br></span>安小庆：自救的过程中，大理正好打开了门<span><br>12:58 “</span>整个四季的风物，都足够成为我的医生<span>”<br>19:50 “</span>我觉得这边的云很不一般<span>”<br>29:49 </span>搬到云南之后，什么是长久的生计？<span><br>39:06 “</span>我完全做到了快乐穿衣，经常大笑<span>”<br>41:47 </span>关于名字的故事：雨连与斯娜楚措<span><br>46:28 </span>吴琦：小地方更开放，愿意和外界建立联系<span><br>54:53 </span>唐冠华：我有时间去慢慢打磨一个乐器<span><br>1:02:59 </span>岔路走通了，不用去主路上堵车<span><br>1:06:28 </span>大理山川自然的启示：写一个星云，而不是一颗星星<span><br>1:17:24 </span>云南不为人知的<span>“</span>岔路<span>”</span>推荐<span><br></span><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">｜工具箱｜</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>-</span>谈话中提到的公众人物<span><br></span>丹纳（<span>Hippolyte Adolphe Taine</span>），法国历史学家、评论家和哲学家<span><br></span>曾孝濂，生于云南威信，中国生物绘画画家，中国美术家协会云南分会会员<span><br></span>杨潇，记者，作家，背包客，螺丝在拧紧<span> #037 </span>期嘉宾<span><br></span>詹姆斯<span>·C·</span>斯科特（<span>James C. Scott</span>），美国政治学家、人类学家和比较政治学学者<span><br><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><span>-</span><span>谈话中提到的小朋友们<br></span><span>斯娜楚措，与作品合影</span></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><img data-key="5" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/17d7-audiofreehighqps/3D/B7/GKwRIaIJIVt-AEHoxQJ6gRS_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/17d7-audiofreehighqps/3D/B7/GKwRIaIJIVt-AEHoxQJ6gRS_.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/17d7-audiofreehighqps/3D/B7/GKwRIaIJIVt-AEHoxQJ6gRS_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1125.1131221719456" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/17d7-audiofreehighqps/3D/B7/GKwRIaIJIVt-AEHoxQJ6gRS_.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="210.0211161387632"></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><span>和雨连，</span><span>与作品</span><span>合影<br></span><img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fe6e-audiofreehighqps/16/7E/GMCoOSMJIV5jACptfQJ6go1K.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fe6e-audiofreehighqps/16/7E/GMCoOSMJIV5jACptfQJ6go1K.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fe6e-audiofreehighqps/16/7E/GMCoOSMJIV5jACptfQJ6go1K.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fe6e-audiofreehighqps/16/7E/GMCoOSMJIV5jACptfQJ6go1K.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666"><br></span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">-谈话中提到的书籍</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">《季风之北，彩云之南》，<span>[</span>新加坡<span>] </span>杨斌<span><br></span>《艺术哲学》，<span>[</span>法<span>] </span>丹纳<span><br></span>《中国植物志》，中国科学院中国植物志编辑委员会编<span><br></span>《逃避统治的艺术》，<span>[</span>美<span>] </span>詹姆斯<span>·C·</span>斯科特<span><br></span>《弱者的武器》，<span>[</span>美<span>] </span>詹姆斯<span>·C·</span>斯科特<span><br><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>-</span>谈话中提到的其他内容<span><br></span>东边野兽，诞生于上海的东方草本可持续护肤与生活方式品牌，旨在通过复兴中国草本的功能与文化价值，为世界带来健康与美的东方解法。<span><br></span>超级草本实验室，隶属于东边野兽，以生物医药技术探索草药活性在肌肤上的运用，为肌肤带来健康、高效的长期解决方案。<span><br></span>灵感实验室，隶属于东边野兽，进行草本可持续生活方式的实践；作为一个开放的共创平台，邀请来自不同领域的伙伴，一起通过策划出版物、展览、社群活动等多元形式发声。<span><br></span>共识社区（<span>Intentional Communities</span>），是人类群居生活的一种形式，有共识的某类群体自发组成的独立生活社区。<span><br></span>家园计划（<span>AnotherLand</span>），针对生态村（共识社区）进行探索、集成、服务的非营利性组织。<span><br></span>自给自足实验室（<span>Self-Sufficient Lab</span>），<span>2011 </span>年创办于青岛，为家园计划营建自给自足的生态社区做技术准备。<span><br></span>墨线图，用于表现平面、立面和剖面图，一般使用水彩、彩色铅笔、马克笔作画。<span><br></span>阿央白，位于石钟寺石窟的第八窟，<span>“</span>阿央<span>”</span>指白族语的<span>“</span>小孩子<span>”</span>，<span>“</span>白<span>”</span>是对白族语音似<span>“</span>脉<span>”</span>或<span>“</span>蛮<span>”</span>的错译，意思为<span>“</span>门<span>”</span>，白族妇女为求子嗣而祭拜阿央白。<span><br><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>-</span>谈话中提到的地点<span><br></span>东边绿洲共益合作社，维西塔城<span><br></span>大墨雨村<span><br></span>喜洲<span><br></span>寂照庵<span><br></span>虎跳峡<span><br></span>八角地<span><br></span>素方舟<span><br><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">｜本期封面｜<span><br></span>摄影：吴琦<span><br><br></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">｜来互动｜<span><br></span>如果你对本期话题或本节目有任何想法或问题，请大胆在各收听平台评论区留言，或者微博找到吴琦<span>@</span>五七，与主播互动。</p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">｜关于「螺丝在拧紧」｜<span><br></span>监制：彭倩媛<span><br></span>制作人：胡亚萍<span><br></span>编辑：菜市场<span><br></span><span>剪辑：椋生</span><span><br></span>视觉设计：李政坷<span><br></span>节目运营：刘雨萱<span><br></span>原创音乐：徐逍潇<span><br></span>实习生：雷悦雯 王璇</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="7" 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March 8, 2022
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>家园计划(AnotherLand)联合发起人唐冠华坐客谷雨书苑,接受访谈.聊聊在中国大陆探索共识社区12年的体会和感想.</span><br><br><span>有关内容:</span><br><span>1.家园计划涉及教育、文化、经济、生态等领域的工作进展</span><br><span>2.家园计划不反对任何价值观,而是通过制衡来平衡已失衡的心灵和生态环境</span><br><span>3.自给自足与多元化生活方式矛盾么?</span><br><span>4.国内公益组织(NGO)及公益实践者的生存方式和可能性.</span><br><span>5.作为一个理念超前于时代的先行者,实践者个人内心经历着什么?</span><br><span>6.在进行7年的共识社区实验中,大家的日常生活是怎样的?</span><br><span>7.历史上的家园计划有哪些?</span><br><span>8.实践中曾带来重要启发的个人和事件.</span><br></p>
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