by WNYC Studios
We’re taught the Supreme Court was designed to be above the fray of politics. But at a time when partisanship seeps into every pore of American life, are the nine justices living up to that promise? More Perfect is a guide to the current moment on the Court. We bring the highest court of the land down to earth, telling the human dramas at the Court that shape so many aspects of American life — from our religious freedom to our artistic expression, from our reproductive choices to our voice in democracy.
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August 3, 2023
<p>The law protects creators' original work against copycats, but it also leaves the door open for some kinds of copying. When a photographer sues the Andy Warhol Foundation for using her work without permission, the justices struggle not to play art critics as they decide the case. More Perfect explores how this star-studded case offers a look at how this Court actually makes decisions.</p> <p>Voices in the episode include:</p> <p>• <a href="https://www.mixxintl.com/" target="_blank">David Hobbs</a> — known as Mr. Mixx, co-founder of the hip-hop group 2 Live Crew</p> <p>• <a href="https://nymag.com/author/jerry-saltz/" target="_blank">Jerry Saltz</a> — senior art critic and columnist for New York magazine</p> <p>• <a href="https://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/judges/bios/pnl.html" target="_blank">Pierre Leval</a> — judge on U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit</p> <p>• <a href="https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/jeannie-suk-gersen/" target="_blank">Jeannie Suk Gersen</a> — More Perfect legal advisor, Harvard Law professor, New Yorker writer</p> <p>• <a href="https://lynngoldsmith.com/menu.html" target="_blank">Lynn Goldsmith</a> — photographer</p> <p>• Andy Warhol — as himself</p> <p>Learn more:</p> <p>• 1994: <em><a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/1993/92-1292" target="_blank">Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc.</a></em></p> <p>• 2023: <em><a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/2022/21-869" target="_blank">Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts, Inc. v. Goldsmith</a></em></p> <p>• <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/1341457?" target="_blank">"Toward A Fair Use Standard"</a> by Pierre Leval</p> <p>• <a href="https://warholfoundation.org/" target="_blank">The Andy Warhol Foundation</a></p> <p> </p> <p><em>Shadow dockets, term limits, amicus briefs — what puzzles you about the Supreme Court? What stories are you curious about? We want to answer your questions in our next season. <a href="https://apps.nypr.org/crowdsourcing/689" target="_blank">Click here to leave us a voice memo</a>.</em></p> <p><em>Supreme Court archival audio comes from <a href="https://www.oyez.org/" target="_blank">Oyez®</a>, a free law project by Justia and the Legal Information Institute of Cornell Law School.</em></p> <p><em><a href="https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/more-perfect?utm_source=episode-description&utm_medium=more-perfect&utm_campaign=click-here" target="_blank">Click here to donate to More Perfect.</a></em></p> <p><em>Support for More Perfect is provided in part by The Smart Family Fund.</em></p> <p><em>Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Threads</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Facebook</a> @moreperfectpodcast, and <a href="https://twitter.com/MorePerfect" target="_blank">X (Twitter)</a> @moreperfect.</em></p>
July 27, 2023
<p>In 1902, a Swedish-American pastor named Henning Jacobson refused to get the smallpox vaccine. This launched a chain of events leading to two landmark Supreme Court cases, in which the Court considered the balancing act between individual liberty over our bodies and the collective good.</p> <p><em>A version of this story originally ran on <a href="https://link.chtbl.com/theexperiment?sid=moreperfect" target="_blank">The Experiment</a> on March 21, 2021.</em></p> <p>Voices in the episode include:</p> <p>• Rev. Robin Lutjohann — pastor of <a href="https://faithcambridge.org/">Faith Lutheran Church</a> in Cambridge, Massachusetts</p> <p>• <a href="https://www.brandeis.edu/facultyguide/person.html" target="_blank">Michael Willrich</a> — Brandeis University history professor</p> <p>• <a href="https://law.northeastern.edu/faculty/parmet/" target="_blank">Wendy Parmet</a> — Northeastern University School of Law professor</p> <p>Learn more:</p> <p>• 1905: <em><a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/197us11" target="_blank">Jacobson v. Massachusetts</a></em></p> <p>• 1927: <em><a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/274us200" target="_blank">Buck v. Bell</a></em></p> <p>• 2022: <em><a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/2021/21A244" target="_blank">National Federation of Independent Business v. Department of Labor, Occupational Safety and Health Administration</a></em></p> <p>• 2022: <em><a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/2021/21A240">Biden v. Missouri</a></em></p> <p>• <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/298913/pox-by-michael-willrich/" target="_blank">"Pox: An American History"</a> by Michael Willrich</p> <p>• <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/constitutional-contagion/6BF9D06349549B35507967DEDB252301">"Constitutional Contagion: COVID, the Courts, and Public Health"</a> by Wendy Parmet</p> <p> </p> <p><em>Music by Ob (“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/1lI3dphblKr0Nl5kkljYYq?si=SfGCLQ90T3yRO1evRsa_Mg">Wold</a>”), Parish Council (“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5xazzv7zOimP23kwmT6gUw?si=FS8fD5JrTQKn_RPnPF49yA">Leaving the TV on at Night</a>,” “<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/577OBXIH2TQfUZZ4jf0xuS?si=ywgIk7U6QuSNWxRUqgg44w">Museum Weather</a>,” “<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/2be5x4537gIfMPzdfrrwop?si=RL0q7gZBQymcz6ja8VcWvQ">P Lachaise</a>”), Alecs Pierce (“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/4sWMhcvcAztlWh1yVoaTs1?si=MDrmcS_uT9qfMMGrMMBeRw">Harbour Music, Parts I & II</a>”), Laundry (“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/3sMM3pQasbp1aAVrpjVJlr?si=DkANHd6ZTCysRQD9uTdlCA">Lawn Feeling</a>”), water feature (“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/04XnWbggAlnqDVoNCpfogX?si=-xKbClsIQU-NgWaHEU8heQ">richard iii (duke of gloucester)</a>”), Keyboard (“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/4PGohVn83Bs28LjU34cHn2?si=x5Yp6kOtQ4WHv-wWT3UaTg">Mu</a>”), and naran ratan (“<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5hpZxgvARgsbmQjQaGmYIW?si=RpzJHpyHT-merpeBOt0EHg">Forevertime Journeys</a>”), provided by <a href="http://tastymorsels.org">Tasty Morsels</a>. Additional music by Dieterich Buxtehude (“Prelude and Fugue in D Major”), Johannes Brahms (“Quintet for Clarinet, Two Violins, Viola, and Cello in B Minor”), and Andrew Eric Halford and Aidan Mark Laverty (“Edge of a Dream”). </em></p> <p><em>Shadow dockets, term limits, amicus briefs — what puzzles you about the Supreme Court? What stories are you curious about? We want to answer your questions in our next season. <a href="https://apps.nypr.org/crowdsourcing/689" target="_blank">Click here to leave us a voice memo</a>.</em></p> <p><em>Supreme Court archival audio comes from <a href="https://www.oyez.org/" target="_blank">Oyez®</a>, a free law project by Justia and the Legal Information Institute of Cornell Law School.</em></p> <p><em>Support for More Perfect is provided in part by The Smart Family Fund.</em></p> <p><em>Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Threads</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Facebook</a> @moreperfectpodcast, and <a href="https://twitter.com/MorePerfect" target="_blank">X (Twitter)</a> @moreperfect.</em></p>
July 20, 2023
<p><em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> is one of the most infamous cases in Supreme Court history: in 1857, an enslaved person named Dred Scott filed a suit for his freedom and lost. In his decision, Chief Justice Roger Brooke Taney wrote that Black men “had no rights which the white man was bound to respect.” One Civil War and more than a century later, the Taneys and the Scotts reunite at a Hilton in Missouri to figure out what reconciliation looks like in the 21st century.</p> <p>Voices in the episode include:</p> <p>• <a href="https://www.thedredscottfoundation.org/dshf/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=104&Itemid=86" target="_blank">Lynne Jackson</a> — great-great-granddaughter of Dred and Harriet Scott, and president and founder of the Dred Scott Heritage Foundation</p> <p>• Dred Scott Madison — great-great-grandson of Dred Scott</p> <p>• Barbara McGregory — great-great-granddaughter of Dred Scott</p> <p>• Charlie Taney — great-great-grandnephew of Roger Brooke Taney, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who wrote the <em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> decision</p> <p>• Richard Josey — Manager of Programs at the Minnesota Historical Society</p> <p>Learn more:</p> <p>• 1857: <em><a href="https://www.oyez.org/cases/1850-1900/60us393" target="_blank">Dred Scott v. Sandford</a></em></p> <p>• <a href="https://thedredscottfoundation.org/dshf/" target="_blank">The Dred Scott Heritage Foundation</a></p> <p> </p> <p><em>Special thanks to Kate Taney Billingsley, whose play, "<a href="https://playingonair.org/new-releases/2017/6/21/a-man-of-his-time-by-kate-t-billingsley-1#gsc.tab=0" target="_blank">A Man of His Time</a>," inspired the episode; and to Soren Shade for production help. Additional music for this episode by Gyan Riley.</em></p> <p><em>Shadow dockets, term limits, amicus briefs — what puzzles you about the Supreme Court? What stories are you curious about? We want to answer your questions in our next season. <a href="https://apps.nypr.org/crowdsourcing/689" target="_blank">Click here to leave us a voice memo</a>.</em></p> <p><em>Supreme Court archival audio comes from <a href="https://www.oyez.org/" target="_blank">Oyez®</a>, a free law project by Justia and the Legal Information Institute of Cornell Law School.</em></p> <p><em>Support for More Perfect is provided in part by The Smart Family Fund.</em></p> <p><em>Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Threads</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/moreperfectpodcast" target="_blank">Facebook</a> @moreperfectpodcast, and <a href="https://twitter.com/MorePerfect" target="_blank">Twitter</a> @moreperfect.</em></p>
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