by Ohio Employee Ownership Center
Interviews leading experts on issues pertaining to employee ownership including building an ownership culture, management practices, succession planning, economic development, and so much more.
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February 13, 2025
<div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><span class= "EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">SUMMARY:</span></span></strong> <span class="EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">In this episode Chris Cooper sits down with Jim O’Brien founder and current President of Go2Partners, a 100% ESOP Company. We talk about the interesting way in which Go2Partners was founded and funded by the employees themselves, why employee ownership was an attractive choice for him and the founders of the company, and how becoming employee owned</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">impacted</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">the way in which the company was managed and run day-to-day. We also talk about EO-</span><span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW170031837 BCX0">connection</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">a new project that Jim is leading which enables employee-owned companies to connect and</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">purchase</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">goods and services from one another.</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"134233117":false,"134233118":false,"201341983":0,"335551550":1,"335551620":1,"335559685":0,"335559737":0,"335559738":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">Guest INFO (bio):</span></span></strong> <a class= "Hyperlink SCXW170031837 BCX0" href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/obpartners/" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">https://www.linkedin.com/in/obpartners/</span></span></a><span class="EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">Further Material</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">(links)</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></strong></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">Go2</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">Partners Website:</span></span> <a class="Hyperlink SCXW170031837 BCX0" href= "https://www.go2partners.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">https://www.go2partners.com/</span></span></a><span class="EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">EO-Connection Website:</span></span> <a class="Hyperlink SCXW170031837 BCX0" href="https://www.eo-connection.com/Login" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">https://www.eo-connection.com/Login</span></span></a> <span class="EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"> </p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">SUPPORT THE SHOW:</span></span></strong> <span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">We make all episodes of Owners at Work free and never place them behind a paywall. But they take tim</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">e and money to produce. Consider making a</span></span> <a class="Hyperlink SCXW170031837 BCX0" href="https://secure2.convio.net/ksu/site/Donation2;jsessionid=00000000.app262a?2440.donation=form1&df_id=2440&NONCE_TOKEN=28DAFAA902A9B3BB79EC490684E0EE16" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><a class= "Hyperlink SCXW170031837 BCX0" href= "https://secure2.convio.net/ksu/site/Donation2;jsessionid=00000000.app262a?2440.donation=form1&df_id=2440&NONCE_TOKEN=28DAFAA902A9B3BB79EC490684E0EE16" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle="Hyperlink">DONATION</span></span></a> <span class="TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">today to help keep our work going.</span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW170031837 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW170031837 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU:</span></span></strong> <span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">We are always looking for new employee ownership stories to tell.</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0">Please contact us with your story at</span></span> <a class= "Hyperlink SCXW170031837 BCX0" href="mailto:[email protected]" target= "_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">[email protected]</span></span></a><span class= "TextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW170031837 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW170031837 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div>
September 12, 2024
<div class="SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"> </p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">SUMMARY:</span></span></strong> <span class="TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">One of the exciting happenings in the world of employee ownership today is the proliferation of different models and methods for bringing employees into the ownership of a company. In this episode we discuss the Direc</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">t Stock Ownership model that Chip Cargas, Founder of Cargas Systems, implemented at his company. We also</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">discussed</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">where the model took him,</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">and this next stage of his entrepreneurial journey,</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">with the development of the Tandem Center for</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Shared Business Success</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">, a nonprofit initiative offering pathways for business success through profit sharing and direct employee ownership</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">.</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">We also talk with Nate Scott, current President and CEO of Cargas Systems and discuss his journey</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0"> from employee,</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">to employee owner, and finally to his role as a leader of the company.</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0"> Finally</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">we</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0"> talk</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">with Drew</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0">Mousetis</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">, the</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Executive Director of the Tandem Center and</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0"> get</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">the scoop from him on</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">his plans to grow employee ownership using the Direct Stock Ownership model.</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Further Material</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></strong></p> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW155849632 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0" role="listitem" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><a class= "Hyperlink SCXW155849632 BCX0" href="https://www.tandemcenter.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">https://www.tandemcenter.org/</span></span></a><span class="EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW155849632 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0" role="listitem" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="3" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">https://cargas.com/</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><strong><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Guest INFO:</span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></strong></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Chip Cargas is the Founder & Chair Emeritus at Cargas Systems, an employee-owned software company with</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">nearly 200</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">employees. They provide software for accounting, operations,</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">sales</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">and marketing.</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Chip founded the company in 1988 with the purpose of creating a caring environment where people would love to work.</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">He served as CEO from the founding until December 2017, Board Chair until October 2020, and Board Member until March 2022. He was named Chair Emeritus in 2022. Chip continues to nurture the company’s purpose of “Shared Success for employees, customers, owners, partners, and community.” Cargas Systems has earned the following national & regional awards for its values and growth</span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":720,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Nate Scott is President and CEO of Cargas Systems, joining in 2005</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">as a sales consultant. He</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">eventually became manager of the Sales and Marketing team. When</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Cargas</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">launched a new business unit centered around its proprietary Cargas Energy software,</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">he</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">became VP. During his tenure, the business unit doubled in staff and doubled in revenue. Scott also took advantage of annual career advancement meetings and</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0"> asked</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">to lead cross-company initiatives.</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">In 2014 he became</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0"> President, and</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">added CEO four years later.</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":720,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Drew</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0">Mousetis</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">is Executive Director of the Tandem Center for Shared Business Success</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">with a background in business management.</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">Before joining Tandem, Drew was a lead consultant at Cargas, where he embraced the ethos of employee ownership within a dynamic culture of engagement and profit sharing at the</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0"> employee owned</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">company. Prior to Cargas, Drew was the Director of Finance & Development at The</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed SCXW155849632 BCX0">GateHouse</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">. </span></span><span class="EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":720,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":720,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0"><strong>SUPPORT THE SHOW:</strong></span></span> <span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">We make all episodes of Owners at Work free and never place them behind a paywall. But they take time and money to produce. Consider making a</span></span> <a class="Hyperlink SCXW155849632 BCX0" href= "https://secure2.convio.net/ksu/site/Donation2;jsessionid=00000000.app262a?2440.donation=form1&df_id=2440&NONCE_TOKEN=28DAFAA902A9B3BB79EC490684E0EE16" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><a class= "Hyperlink SCXW155849632 BCX0" href= "https://secure2.convio.net/ksu/site/Donation2;jsessionid=00000000.app262a?2440.donation=form1&df_id=2440&NONCE_TOKEN=28DAFAA902A9B3BB79EC490684E0EE16" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle="Hyperlink">DONATION</span></span></a> <span class="TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">today to help keep our work going.</span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":160,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0"><strong>WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU:</strong></span></span> <span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">We are always looking for new employee ownership stories to tell. Please contact us with your story at</span></span> <a class= "Hyperlink SCXW155849632 BCX0" href="mailto:[email protected]" target= "_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">[email protected]</span></span></a><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW155849632 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW155849632 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast= "none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0">---------------------------------------------------------------------</span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW155849632 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW155849632 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div>
August 16, 2024
<div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><strong><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Guest</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">s</span></span><span class= "TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">:</span></span> <span class= "EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></strong></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Olga Prushinskaya and Jamie Pockrandt</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">, Democracy at Work Institute</span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><strong><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Summary:</span></span></strong></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">The second most </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">common form</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">of employee ownership in the United States is the worker cooperative</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">where workers</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">participate</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">in both the financial success and governance of the firms</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">.</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0"> </span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Today there are</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">over 750 worker cooperatives in the United States, which is triple the amount that existed in 2012</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">.</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">How do we know these numbers? Unlike the number of ESOPs which can be tracked using</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">publicly</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">available</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">data generated by the</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">government</span><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">, there is no public entity that tracks worker cooperatives. Instead, it has been</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">nonprofit groups that have filled in this gap in knowledge. On this episode I speak with Olga Prushinskaya and Jamie Pockrandt of the Democracy at Work Institute,</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">a</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">national organization</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">committed to</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">worker cooperative</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">development</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">– which includes gather data on worker cooperatives. We talk about</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">their</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">soon to be</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">released</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">State of the Sector report and what it found</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">regarding</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">worker cooperatives as well as other projects they have been working on which aim to better understand</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">the impact that employee ownership is having on workers, companies, and communities.</span></span> <span class="EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><strong><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Further Material</span></span></strong><span class="EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":240}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="listitem" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="6" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang= "EN" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Learn about DAWI’s work here:</span></span> <a class="Hyperlink SCXW72559472 BCX0" href= "https://institute.coop/" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">https://institute.coop/</span></span></a> <span class= "EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="listitem" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="6" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="auto"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Existing datasets mentioned in the show:</span></span> <a class="Hyperlink SCXW72559472 BCX0" href="https://institute.coop/core-research" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class= "TextRun Underlined SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">https://institute.coop/core-research</span></span></a> <span class="EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><strong><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN" xml:lang="EN" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Guest</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Info:</span></span><span class= "TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0"> </span></span><span class= "EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></strong></p> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="listitem" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="8" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Jamie Pockrandt, Data Architect, Democracy at Work Institute:</span></span> <span class= "EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Email:</span></span><span class= "TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0"> </span></span><a class= "Hyperlink SCXW72559472 BCX0" href= "mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" rel= "noreferrer noopener"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang= "EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-charstyle= "Hyperlink">[email protected]</span></span></a><span class= "TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0"> | </span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Phone: </span></span><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">(415) 379-9201 Ext. 19</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" data-ccp-props= "{"201341983":0,"335559685":720,"335559739":0,"335559740":259}"> </span></p> </div> <div class="ListContainerWrapper SCXW72559472 BCX0"> <ul class="BulletListStyle1 SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="list"> <li class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW72559472 BCX0" role="listitem" data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="8" data-list-defn-props= "{"335552541":1,"335559683":0,"335559684":-2,"335559685":720,"335559991":360,"469769226":"Symbol","469769242":[8226],"469777803":"left","469777804":"","469777815":"hybridMultilevel"}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"><span class="TextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Olga Prushinskaya,</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">Metrics</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72559472 BCX0">and Impact Analyst</span></span><span class="EOP SCXW72559472 BCX0" 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