by David Leutert and Viktoria Cichoń
Paid 2 Draw is a new podcast about the business side of illustration hosted by David Leutert and Viktoria Cichoń—two illustrators and lettering artists from Berlin. They interview inspiring creatives about how they manage to get paid doing what they love.
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January 21, 2025
<p><strong>YONK</strong> is a Dutch 3D animation studio consisting of artistic power couple Victoria Young and Niels van der Donk. Coming from different backgrounds like fine art and graphic design they decided early on to combine their individual skills to create 3D work. Since 2019 they specialize in using Virtual Reality and 3D sculpting tools to create uniquely strange, textured and colorful artworks, animations and character designs for an increasingly international client list such as Google, Sprite, Nike, Amazon and The New York Times, but also just for the sake of creating and having fun experimenting. </p> <p><br></p> <p>In this episode they take us into their world and explain how sculpting 3D figures in virtual reality is more intuitive and less technical than the traditional way with a keyboard and mouse. Working in VR has led to quicker results and helped them discover their unique style. By embracing the explorer’s mindset they experiment in a way where everything is allowed and create a body of work by describing their nightmares to each other. </p> <p><br></p> <p>They generously share how their style gradually developed by not knowing how to do things “properly” and how they made a conscious decision to leave the imperfections and happy accidents in their work to give it a more organic feel. While collaborating they acknowledge each other’s strengths and try to involve each other throughout the whole process to create a cohesive result. </p> <p><br></p> <p>Even though their work is mostly created in VR it can be transferred to many other mediums and be experienced by everyone as an animated video, a 3D print or traditional 2D image. But their activities are not only limited to making art — they also develop tools to solve specific problems within the sculpting or animation programs and share them with the growing VR and 3D sculpting community. </p> <p><br></p> <p>It was that constant sharing of their personal work on Instagram that has caught the attention of potential clients who want be a part of their exciting experiences and set their mark in the VR space. To YONK, client work not only poses creative challenges, but also requires them to incorporate some planning and organizing into their process while still keeping it as intuitive and natural as possible. </p> <p>_________</p> <p>MENTIONED LINKS: </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/medium.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Adobe Medium</a> </p> <p>• <a href="https://creativecloud.adobe.com/apps/all/substance3d-modeler" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Substance 3D Modeler</a> (by Adobe) </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.josephmelhuish.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Joseph Melhuish</a> </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-pro/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Meta Quest Pro</a> </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@yonk.online/streams" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">YONK & Friends</a> (live stream) </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tokymegz" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Christopher Rutledge</a> </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.blender.org/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Blender</a> (open-source 3D & animation software) </p> <p>• <a href="https://blendermarket.com/products/step-motion" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Step Motion</a> on <a href="https://blendermarket.com/creators/step-motion" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Blender Market</a> </p> <p>• <a href="https://willanderson.gumroad.com/l/warpystep" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">WarpySTEP v1.2</a> for Blender (by Will Anderson) </p> <p>• <a href="https://studio.blender.org/training/grease-pencil-fundamentals/pages/resources/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Grease Pencil Resources</a> for Blender </p> <p>• <a href="https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/modeling/geometry_nodes/index.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Geometry Nodes</a> for Blender </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dedouze/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Dédouze</a> </p> <p>• Other 3D software: <a href="https://www.maxon.net/en/cinema-4d" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Cinema 4D</a>, <a href="https://www.sidefx.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Houdini</a>, <a href="https://pixologic.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">ZBrush</a>, <a href="https://www.autodesk.com/products/maya/free-trial" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Maya</a> </p> <p>_________</p> <p>FOLLOW YONK: </p> <p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/yonk.online" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">@yonk.online</a></p> <p>Website: <a href="https://www.yonk.online" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">yonk.online</a></p> <p>YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/@yonk.online" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">YONK</a></p> <p>TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@yonk.online" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">@yonk.online</a></p> <p>Twitch: <a href="https://www.twitch.tv/yonkonline" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">yonkonline</a></p> <p>Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.net/@yonk.online" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">@yonk.online</a></p> <p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/yonkonline" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">x.com/yonkonline</a></p> <p>_________</p> <p>If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. </p> <p>And follow Paid 2 Draw on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paid2drawpodcast/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@paid2drawpodcast" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>. </p> <p>_________</p> <p>Hosted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vikunia_illustration" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Vicky Cichoń</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/davidleutert" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Dave Leutert</a>. </p> <p>Music by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amandadeffofficial" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Amanda Deff</a>. Assistance by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dlazaru" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Diana Lazaru</a>. </p> <p>_________</p> <p><br></p> <p>This interview was recorded on May 5th, 2024, during the 20th annual <a href="https://conference.pictoplasma.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Pictoplasma Conference</a> at <a href="https://www.silent-green.net/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">silent green</a> in Berlin. Each spring, Pictoplasma transforms the city into an international meeting point for a diverse scene of artists and creatives, trailblazing the face of tomorrow’s visual culture. The central conference brings together 900 key players on a global scale and features 20+ lectures by forward-thinking creatives. The accompanying animation screenings showcase cutting edge short films, with most of the filmmakers present in Q&A rounds. The character lab offers hands-on workshops, immersive media demos, panels and networking. </p> <p><a href="https://conference.pictoplasma.com/registration-berlin/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Get your tickets</a> for <strong>Pictoplasma Berlin 2025</strong> (May 1st–4th).</p>
January 7, 2025
<p>Slovak illustrator <strong>Martina Paukova</strong> has come a long way from originally studying politics to completely switching gears and moving to London — studying at Camberwell College of Arts — to now settling in Berlin. On her path, she developed a distinct style marked by her trademark vector lines, bold color palettes and flat character-driven subject matters, allowing her to accumulate an impressive client list spanning from Google, Apple and The New York Times to IKEA, The Economist, Die Zeit, and many more. </p> <p>Starting out in the illustration world as a “late bloomer” in her mid 20s, Martina relied on three different ways to land her first clients: University connections, referrals from previous industry projects and competitions (a.k.a. self initiated work). </p> <p>She explains how one job led to another and how having a set of recurring clients can bring financial stability to one’s career, but can also lead to stagnation and hindering growth. As clients usually hire based on previous work to ensure a safe outcome, it is easy for artists to get stuck in the hamster wheel of repetition. </p> <p>Martina also points out the importance of not relying on a single way of finding clients (like an agent or referrals or one social media platform) and that as professional freelance illustrators we must be our own agency and find ways to motivate ourselves to grow both creatively and as a business. Even though life tends to get in the way and time for personal development is limited, Martina wants to keep experimenting — dabbling in 3D and textile illustration; maybe even knitting or sewing quilts — to keep herself and her clients excited for what’s to come. </p> <p>We are definitely excited about Martina’s path to becoming a professional illustrator, just as much as her useful industry insights and hilarious anecdotes like the one where she lost her Apple Pencil on the day of a deadline.</p> <p>_________</p> <p>MENTIONED LINKS: </p> <p>• Reps: <a href="https://agentpekka.com/artist/martina-paukova/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Agent Pekka</a> & <a href="https://making-pictures.com/artists/martina-paukova/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Making Pictures</a></p> <p>• <a href="https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/camberwell-college-of-arts" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Camberwell College of Arts</a></p> <p>• <a href="https://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/ipad.html" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Illustrator on the iPad</a> </p> <p>_________</p> <p>FOLLOW MARTINA: </p> <p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/martinapaukova" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">@martinapaukova</a> </p> <p>Website: <a href="https://www.martinapaukova.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">martinapaukova.com</a> </p> <p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinapaukova" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Martina Paukova</a></p> <p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/martinapaukova" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">x.com/martinapaukova</a></p> <p>_________</p> <p>If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow <strong>Paid 2 Draw</strong> on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paid2drawpodcast/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@paid2drawpodcast" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>. </p> <p>_________</p> <p>Hosted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vikunia_illustration" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Vicky Cichoń</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/davidleutert" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Dave Leutert</a>. Music by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amandadeffofficial" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Amanda Deff</a>. Assistance by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dlazaru" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Diana Lazaru</a>. </p> <p>_________</p> <p>This interview was recorded on May 5th, 2024, during the 20th annual <a href="https://conference.pictoplasma.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Pictoplasma Conference</a> at <a href="https://www.silent-green.net/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">silent green</a> in Berlin. Each spring, Pictoplasma transforms the city into an international meeting point for a diverse scene of artists and creatives, trailblazing the face of tomorrow’s visual culture. The central conference brings together 900 key players on a global scale and features 20+ lectures by forward-thinking creatives. The accompanying animation screenings showcase cutting edge short films, with most of the filmmakers present in Q&A rounds. The character lab offers hands-on workshops, immersive media demos, panels and networking. </p> <p><a href="https://conference.pictoplasma.com/registration-berlin/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Get your tickets</a> for <strong>Pictoplasma Berlin 2025</strong> (May 1st–4th).</p>
June 20, 2024
<p><strong>Julia Rothman</strong> is an award-winning illustrator, pattern maker, NYT columnist and party motivator from New York. Her drawings appear on a variety of things, from newspapers and magazines to posters and billboards, wallpapers, bedding, towels, apparel, mugs and other merchandise. Julia has authored and illustrated over twelve books and has an illustrated column in the New York Times called <em>“Scratch”</em> about small businesses with big personalities. </p> <p><br></p> <p>A lot of her projects were self-initiated. Julia just reaches out to people she wants to work with. She enjoys having a variety of projects at the same time and a lot of them are found by proactively pitching ideas. Many artists may not know this, she says, but she encourages everyone to just take a leap and contact prospective clients. You never know who might need your art. </p> <p><br></p> <p>Julia likes to maintain a regular drawing practice. She always keeps a sketch pad around and can be found doodling most of the time. Sometimes she draws with friends and other times she just draws to stay busy. If she hasn’t drawn for a while, she feels a certain sense of discomfort. She regularly attends drawing nights, meets up with other artists and has co-founded <em>Women Who Draw,</em> an open directory of female* professional illustrators, artists and cartoonists. </p> <p><br></p> <p>On this episode we dive deep into how Julia found her way into the illustration world, what teaching at RISD and SVA has taught her, the benefits of starting the year with a More/Less list, and why you shouldn’t be afraid of bad drawings. She even shares the backstory of how she became a professional party motivator. Such a fun and informative conversation with one of the most prolific illustrators of our time! </p> <p>_________</p> <p><strong>MENTIONED LINKS</strong>: </p> <p>• <a href="http://www.womenwhodraw.com/">Women Who Draw</a>: an open directory of female professional illustrators </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ladies-Drawing-Night-Inspired-Party/dp/1452147000">Ladies Drawing Night</a>: a female-only (trans-inclusive) drink and draw </p> <p>• <em>“</em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/scratch"><em>Scratch</em></a><em>”:</em> Julia Rothman & Shaina Feinberg’s New York Times column </p> <p>• The Anatomy Series: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Julia-Rothman-Collection-Anatomy-Nature/dp/1612128521">The Julia Rothman Collection</a> </p> <p>• <em>“</em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/julia-rothman/every-body/9780316426572"><em>Every Body – An Honest and Open Look at Sex from Every Angle</em></a><em>”,</em> Julia Rothman & Shaina Feinberg </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.hyggeandwest.com/collections/julia-rothman">Julia’s wallpapers</a> at Hygge & West </p> <p>• Skillshare course: <em>“</em><a href="https://www.skillshare.com/en/classes/illustrating-patterns-creating-hand-drawn-wallpaper/112402133"><em>How to Make A Repeat Pattern with Julia Rothman</em></a><em>”</em> </p> <p>• Purchase Julia’s books on <a href="https://www.indiebound.org/search/book?keys=julia+rothman">Indiebound</a> </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.metalmother.com">Matt Dorfman</a>: art director of the NYT Book Review </p> <p>• Lynda Barry’s <em>“</em><a href="https://drawnandquarterly.com/books/making-comics/"><em>Making Comics</em></a><em>”</em> </p> <p>• <a href="https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/more-less-lists">Vogue article</a> about Julia’s More/Less lists </p> <p>_________</p> <p><strong>FOLLOW JULIA</strong>: </p> <p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/juliarothman">@juliarothman</a><br>Website: <a href="https://www.juliarothman.com">juliarothman.com</a><br>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/juliarothman">x.com/juliarothman</a><br>Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/juliarothman">patreon.com/juliarothman</a></p> <p><strong>HIRE JULIA</strong>: <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Inquiry%20through%20Paid%202%20Draw%20Podcast">[email protected]</a></p> <p>_________</p> <p>If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. </p> <p>And follow <strong>Paid 2 Draw</strong> on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paid2drawpodcast/">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@paid2drawpodcast">TikTok</a>. </p> <p>_________</p> <p>Hosted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vikunia_illustration">Vicky Cichoń</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/davidleutert">Dave Leutert</a>. </p> <p>Music by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amandadeffofficial">Amanda Deff</a>.</p> <p>_________</p> <p><a href="https://berlinletters.com"><strong>Berlin Letters</strong></a><strong> Festival</strong>: Come to our live interview with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jimenezlettering">Ximena Jiménez</a> on Sunday, <strong>July 7th</strong>, at ~1:15pm at <a href="https://www.silent-green.net">silent green</a> in Berlin! ✨ There are also various workshops available during Berlin Letters, even for non-ticket holders. You can find a workshop overview <a href="https://berlinletters.com/workshops-overview/">right here</a>. </p> --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/paid2draw/message
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