by Jon Strum
Jon Strum cuts through all the jargon and breaks down the latest multiple sclerosis news. You’ll meet the scientists who are creating tomorrow’s MS treatments today. You’ll hear from the experts discussing how the latest tweaks and changes to our healthcare laws will impact your MS treatment. And we’ll be talking to the courageous MS warriors who are out there advocating on behalf of the MS community every day, as well as the men and women who are committed to living their best lives with MS and living their best lives as MS caregivers. If you're dealing with multiple sclerosis in your life -- as a patient, caregiver, family member, or friend -- join us each week for RealTalk MS.
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April 21, 2025
Rehabilitation psychologist Dr. Mana Ali Carter discusses the positive effects of spirituality on the mind and body for people living with multiple sclerosis in an interview.
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Host Jon Strum interviews Dr. Amit Bar-Or about how recent breakthroughs in MS research are transforming patient care.
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<p>For many people, it can be difficult to talk about the feelings of loss that can accompany MS. For some, it's the loss of the way they imagined their life would turn out. For others, it's the more specific loss of function. Perhaps the loss of their mobility. Or a decline in their cognitive skills. It's painful to imagine any of these scenarios, let alone experience them in real life. </p> <p style="text-align: center;"><img src= "//assets.libsyn.com/show/105901/Mary-Frances_OConnor_2.png" alt= "Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor" width="331" height="337" /> </p> <p>The human response to loss is grief. And grieving itself can affect your physical, emotional, and cognitive health. Joining me today to discuss how grieving can affect you, along with ways to best manage grief, is Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor.</p> <p>Dr. O'Connor is a professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress Lab, investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Dr. O'Connor also lives with MS, and the title of her new book is The Grieving Body: How the Stress of Loss Can Be an Opportunity for Healing.</p> <p>We'll also share the results of a study on MS fatigue in Finland.</p> <p>We'll tell you about a study that focused on sexual dysfunction among women living with MS in Iran.</p> <p>You'll learn what a research team discovered when they connected sick days from work with the prodromal phase of MS.</p> <p>And we're sharing a new resource from the MS International Federation that will help you assess which wellness practices and complementary therapies may be beneficial for you.</p> <p style="text-align: left;">We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!</p> <div align="center"> <hr width="25%" /></div> <p>This Week: Managing the grief that comes from living with MS <strong>:22</strong></p> <p>Results from a Finnish study adds further evidence to what we know about MS fatigue <strong>1:36</strong></p> <p>Results of a study that focused on sexual dysfunction among women living with MS in Iran <strong>3:13</strong></p> <p>Can job-related sick days help researchers better understand the prodromal phase of MS? <strong>5:48</strong></p> <p>The MS International Federation has produced a very worthwhile guide to wellness practices and complementary therapies for people with MS <strong>10:49</strong></p> <p>Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor discusses managing the grief that accompanies being diagnosed with MS <strong>12:42</strong></p> <p>Share this episode <strong>34:02</strong></p> <p>Have you downloaded the free RealTalk MS app? <strong>34:22</strong></p> <div align="center"> <hr width="25%" /></div> <p style="text-align: center;"><span style= "color: #e67e23;"><strong>SHARE THIS EPISODE OF REALTALK MS</strong></span></p> <p>Just copy this link & paste it into your text or email: <a href="https://realtalkms.com/397" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><strong><span style= "color: #e67e23;">https://realtalkms.com/397</span></strong></a></p> <p style="text-align: center;"><span style= "color: #e67e23;"><strong>ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION</strong></span></p> <p>I've always thought about the RealTalk MS podcast as a conversation. And this is your opportunity to join the conversation by sharing your feedback, questions, and suggestions for topics that we can discuss in future podcast episodes. Please shoot me an email or call the RealTalk MS Listener Hotline and share your thoughts!</p> <p><span style="color: #e67e23;"><strong>Email: <a style= "color: #e67e23;" href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank" rel= "noopener noreferrer">[email protected]</a></strong></span><br /> <span style="color: #e67e23;"><strong>Phone: (310) 526-2283</strong></span></p> <p>And don't forget to join us in the <span style= "color: #e67e23;"><strong><a style="color: #e67e23;" href= "https://facebook.com/groups/realtalkms">RealTalk MS Facebook group</a></strong></span>!</p> <div align="center"> <hr width="25%" /></div> <p style="text-align: center;"><span style= "color: #e67e23;"><strong>LINKS</strong></span></p> <p>If your podcast app doesn't allow you to click on these links, you'll find them in the show notes in the <span style= "color: #e67e23;"><strong><a style="color: #e67e23;" href= "https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tv.wizzard.android.realtalk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">RealTalk MS app</a></strong></span> or at <span style= "color: #e67e23;"><strong><a style="color: #e67e23;" title= "RealTalk MS" href="http://www.realtalkms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.RealTalkMS.com</a></strong></span></p> <p><strong>Become an MS Activist<br /> <span style="color: #e67e23;">Web:</span> <a href= "https://nationalmssociety.org/advocacy" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"><span style= "color: #e67e23;">https://nationalmssociety.org/advocacy</span></a><br /> <span style="color: #e67e23;">Email:</span> <span style= "color: #e67e23;">[email protected]</span><br /></strong></p> <p><strong>STUDY: Evaluation of Patient-Perceived Fatigue in Multiple Sclerosis Using the Finnish MS Registry<br /> <a href= "https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20552173251325098" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style= "color: #e67e23;">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20552173251325098</span></a></strong></p> <p><strong>STUDY: The Prevalence of Sexual Dysfunction and Its Contributors Among the Women with Multiple Sclerosis<br /> <a href= "https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12905-025-03653-y" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style= "color: #e67e23;">https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12905-025-03653-y</span></a></strong></p> <p><strong>STUDY: The Prodromal Phase of Multiple Sclerosis: Evidence from Sickness Absence Patterns Before Disease Onset -- A Matched Cohort Study<br /> <a href= "https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/early/2025/03/25/jnnp-2024-335279.full" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style= "color: #e67e23;">https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/early/2025/03/25/jnnp-2024-335279.full</span></a></strong></p> <p><strong>STUDY (PLAIN ENGLISH VERSION): The Prodromal Phase of Multiple Sclerosis: Evidence from Sickness Absence Patterns Before Disease Onset -- A Matched Cohort Study<br /> <a href= "https://tremlettsmsresearchexplained.wordpress.com/2025/03/26/the-prodromal-phase-of-multiple-sclerosis-evidence-from-sickness-absence-patterns-before-disease-onset-a-matched-cohort-study-explained" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style= "color: #e67e23;">https://tremlettsmsresearchexplained.wordpress.com/2025/03/26/the-prodromal-phase-of-multiple-sclerosis-evidence-from-sickness-absence-patterns-before-disease-onset-a-matched-cohort-study-explained</span></a><br /> </strong></p> <p><strong>DOWNLOAD: Wellness Practices and Complementary Therapies in MS<br /> <a href= "https://msif.org/resources/wellness-practices-and-complementary-therapies/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style= "color: #e67e23;">https://msif.org/resources/wellness-practices-and-complementary-therapies/</span></a></strong></p> <p><strong>J</strong><strong>oin the RealTalk MS Facebook Group</strong><br /> <span style="color: #e67e23;"><a style="color: #e67e23;" href= "https://facebook.com/groups/realtalkms" 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