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Trinity Forum Conversations is a podcast exploring the big questions in life by looking to the best of the Christian intellectual tradition and elevating the voices, both ancient and modern, who grapple with these questions and direct our hearts to the Author of the answers. We invite you to join us in one of the great joys of life: a conversation among friends on the things that matter most.
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June 25, 2024
<p>The language of the Bible has often been invoked in American political discourse through the centuries. Scripture has been quoted by suffragists and secessionists, invoked in arguments for (and against) American independence, the Civil War, and each succeeding conflict, and cited by virtually every President across parties. So how should we discern a faithful application of scripture in public life from instrumentalizing the Bible for political purposes? What can we learn from America’s history of using the Bible in politics?</p><p><br></p><p>[insert quote]</p><p><br></p><p>Kaitlyn Schiess, theologian, speaker, and author of the new book, The Ballot and The Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used and Abused In American Politics and Where We Go From Here, joined us on Friday, September 15 to help us examine America’s history of using (and misusing) biblical language in politics, and explore what we can learn from the times Scripture has been wisely applied as well as egregiously misused. With a wide-ranging discussion covering history, hermeneutics, and political theology, she helped us consider the proper use of the Bible in political discourse.</p><p><br></p><p>We hope this conversation sparks your creativity and encourages you to look differently at the small matters of life that matter a lot.</p><p><br></p><p>This podcast is an edited version of an online conversation recorded in 2023. Watch the full video of the conversation <a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-scripture-and-the-public-square-the-use-and-misuse-of-the-bible-in-american-history-with-kaitlyn-schiess/">here</a>, and learn more about Kaitlyn Schiess <a href="https://kaitlynschiess.com/">here</a>.</p><p><strong>Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ballot-Bible-Scripture-American-Politics/dp/1587435969"><em>The Ballot and the Bible</em></a><em>, </em>Kaitlyn Schiess</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Liturgy-Politics-Spiritual-Formation-Neighbor/dp/0830848304/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1NNQB98LBZU5N&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JDJ-3psGwXYNwtpE3C9eSw.7U9KxiRfzGW1l_GNuRBlNXu0iUg-FrfE8uEfisZ7Jsk&dib_tag=se&keywords=Liturgy+of+Politics%2C+Spiritual+Formation+for+the+Sake+of+Our+Neighbor&qid=1718981834&s=books&sprefix=liturgy+of+politics%2C+spiritual+formation+for+the+sake+of+our+neighbor%2Cstripbooks%2C153&sr=1-1"><em>Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor</em></a><em>, </em>by Kaitlyn Schiess</p><p>John Winthrop</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Related </strong><strong><em>Trinity Forum Readings</em></strong><strong>:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/city-of-god/"><em>City of God</em></a>, by Augustine</p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/federalistpapers/"><em>The Federalist Papers</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/who-stands-fast/"><em>Who Stands Fast</em></a>, by Dietrich Bonhoeffer</p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/children-of-light-and-the-children-of-darkness/"><em>The Children of Light and The Children of Darkness</em></a>, by Reinhold Niebuhr </p><p><strong>Related Conversations:<br></strong><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-a-new-year-with-the-word-with-malcolm-guite/">A New Year With The Word with Malcolm Guite<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-music-creativity-and-justice-with-ruth-naomi-floyd/">Music, Creativity & Justice with Ruth Naomi Floyd<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-74-pursuing-humility-with-richard-foster-and-brenda-quinn">Pursuing Humility with Richard Foster and Brenda Quinn<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-reading-as-a-spiritual-practice-with-jessica-hooten-wilson/">Reading as a Spiritual Practice with Jessica Hooten Wilson<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-walking-with-god-walking-as-a-spiritual-discipline-with-mark-buchanan/">Walking as a Spiritual Practice with Mark Buchanan<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-theology-of-making/">Making as a Spiritual Practice with Makoto Fujimura<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=online-conversation-connecting-spiritual-formation-public-life-with-michael-wear">Connecting Spiritual Formation & Public Life with Michael Wear<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-the-kingdom-the-power-the-glory-with-tim-alberta/">The Kingdom, the Power & The Glory with Tim Alberta<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-80-a-life-worth-living-with-miroslav-volf">A Life Worth Living with Miroslav Volf<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-81-towards-a-better-christian-politics">Towards a Better Christian Politics<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-82-christian-pluralism-living-faithfully-in-a-world-of-difference">Christian Pluralism: Living Faithfully in a World of Difference<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-83-everything-that-matters-with-charlie-peacock-and-andi-ashworth">What Really Matters with Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth</a></p><p><br>To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit<a href="https://www.ttf.org/trinity-forum-conversations/"> ttf.org/podcast</a> and to join the Trinity Forum Society and help make content like this possible,<a href="https://ttf.org/join"> join the Trinity Forum Society</a>.</p><p><br>Special thanks to<a href="https://www.worldsendimages.com/"> Ned Bustard</a> for our podcast artwork.</p>
June 11, 2024
<p><strong>What Really Matters with Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth</strong></p><p>Ours is an age that values and valorizes productivity, speed, and scale, and emphasizes precise and perpetual measurement and management of those markers. A whole range of organizations, including nonprofits, and even churches, as well as individuals believe that what is valuable is empirical and measurable, and that those measurements show us what's real and what really matters. </p><p><br></p><p>Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth today offer a radically different way of seeing the world. They assert that it is not the empirical but love that is, in their words, the highest way of knowing and the trustworthy basis of the imaginative and creative good. They argue that the small aspects of life, whether it's cooking or gardening, music making, hospitality, or family matters–those things that often seem not to matter so much are actually what matters most. It's an invitation toward fruitfulness, and a new way of understanding and living:</p>“Fruitfulness is what God talks so much about what Jesus talks so much about and it is really something that he is doing in us and with us as we turn towards him. We can't really measure it. We can't really see it. We don't tally it up for ourselves. It's more of a trust that if we walk in the faithful path that God has for us, we can trust that there is a fruitfulness and that it's God's to measure. And I think there's a real freedom in that.” - Andi Ashworth<p>We hope this conversation sparks your creativity and encourages you to look differently at the small matters of life that matter a lot.</p><p><br></p><p>This podcast is an edited version of an online conversation recorded in 2024. Watch the full video of the conversation <a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-what-really-matters-with-charlie-peacock-and-andi-ashworth/">here</a>, and learn more about Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth <a href="https://thewriterthehusband.com/">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:</strong></p><p>Martin Luther King Jr.</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Real-Love-Life-Work-Caring/dp/0986381853"><em>Real Love for Real Life: The Art and Work of Caring</em></a><em>,</em> by Andi Ashworth</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Things-Castles-Sky-Choosing/dp/1941106242"><em>Wild Things in Castles in the Sky: A Guide to Choosing the Best Books for Children</em></a>, by Andi Ashworth</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Everything-That-Doesnt-Matter-Matters/dp/140033764X"><em>Why Everything That Doesn't Matter Matters So Much</em></a><em>,</em> by Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Call-98-Guinness-Os-Paperback/dp/B008AUNKPE/ref=sr_1_2?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.i_Cywxu7hyt0kR121ITiRhn11lRTuPl2bjazhASu8_Qy6y6MnlByxk54gKtroMbv4zBMtunIVTxem4Xlczkqe4ja5dahvNRDXmLSKGcDxPJW7VlohDxhICMwxAHFbuYijHpp341Nf_O1tZtHsNvOGRtLfW9-hAYqkq5mskcMZsc61WsFo7pWlJpm0nuHZbd8bQh0cVBwLL-vaNBKSc5DPay09GivdsMPhoBffi0lDZcp9m2L_TSQiCb1G9iJh2MyMn1COCSIavpExNWWolUC76Yl0AzqirnI_ZlvQy3qrO8.Isz7JC2rDu3EDqKnVL56gatp7CSQ5x3U7LEkDaQl3zM&dib_tag=se&hvadid=580744583723&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9017517&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=8367656182794262551&hvtargid=kwd-1278426992&hydadcr=8263_13500814&keywords=the+call+by+os+guinness&qid=1717511985&sr=8-2"><em>The Call</em></a>, by Os Guinness</p><p>Steven Garber</p><p>Francis Schaeffer</p><p>Frederick Buechner</p><p>Eugene Peterson</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Related </strong><strong><em>Trinity Forum Readings</em></strong><strong>:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/babettes-feast/"><em>Babette's Feast</em></a><em>, </em>by Isak Denison</p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/hannah-and-nathan/"><em>Hannah and Nathan</em></a><em>, </em>by Wendell Berry</p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/pilgrimattinkercreek/"><em>Pilgrim at Tinker Creek</em></a><em>,</em> by Annie Dillard</p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/brighteveningstar/"><em>Bright Evening Star</em></a><em>, </em>by Madeline L'engle</p><p><a href="https://www.ttf.org/product/letters-from-vincent-van-gogh/"><em>Letters from Vincent Van Gogh</em></a><em><br></em><br></p><p><strong>Related Conversations:<br></strong><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-a-new-year-with-the-word-with-malcolm-guite/">A New Year With The Word with Malcolm Guite<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-music-creativity-and-justice-with-ruth-naomi-floyd/">Music, Creativity & Justice with Ruth Naomi Floyd<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-74-pursuing-humility-with-richard-foster-and-brenda-quinn">Pursuing Humility with Richard Foster and Brenda Quinn<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-reading-as-a-spiritual-practice-with-jessica-hooten-wilson/">Reading as a Spiritual Practice with Jessica Hooten Wilson<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-walking-with-god-walking-as-a-spiritual-discipline-with-mark-buchanan/">Walking as a Spiritual Practice with Mark Buchanan<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-theology-of-making/">Making as a Spiritual Practice with Makoto Fujimura<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=online-conversation-connecting-spiritual-formation-public-life-with-michael-wear">Connecting Spiritual Formation & Public Life with Michael Wear<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-the-kingdom-the-power-the-glory-with-tim-alberta/">The Kingdom, the Power & The Glory with Tim Alberta<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-80-a-life-worth-living-with-miroslav-volf">A Life Worth Living with Miroslav Volf<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-81-towards-a-better-christian-politics">Towards a Better Christian Politics<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-82-christian-pluralism-living-faithfully-in-a-world-of-difference">Christian Pluralism: Living Faithfully in a World of Difference</a></p><p>To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit<a href="https://www.ttf.org/trinity-forum-conversations/"> ttf.org/podcast</a> and to join the Trinity Forum Society and help make content like this possible,<a href="https://ttf.org/join"> join the Trinity Forum Society</a></p><p><br>Special thanks to<a href="https://www.worldsendimages.com/"> Ned Bustard</a> for our podcast artwork.</p>
May 28, 2024
<p><strong>Christian Pluralism: Living Faithfully in a World of Difference</strong></p><p><br></p><p>The term ‘pluralism’ has been subject to misunderstanding – even misuse – over the past several years. Some read or hear the word and think simply of a multiplicity of opinions. Others think of a sort of moral relativism that affirms your truth and my truth, no matter how contradictory they may be. Others still may think of this as some sort of squishy interfaith unity that denies matters of ultimate importance. </p><p><br></p><p>In a conversation with John Inazu, Trillia Newbell, and Michael Wear we dive into the meaning of pluralism and how it is that Christians in particular can live faithfully amidst a world of difference. These careful writers and thinkers help us begin to grasp a more robust vision for Christian pluralism:</p><p><br></p><p>“We are all actually called to be reconcilers. Any one of us who have professed faith in Jesus Christ, we are called to a ministry of reconciliation. That means a proclamation of the gospel. So sharing the good news of Jesus Christ to the world around me, to my neighbors, to my friends...I believe that the greatest love that we can extend to others is Jesus.” - Trillia Newbell</p><p><br></p><p>We hope you’re inspired by this conversation about hope, justice, faithfulness, and love, even in the midst of change, challenge, and conflict.</p><p><br></p><p>This podcast is an edited version of an evening conversation recorded in 2020. Watch the full video of the conversation <a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-christian-pluralism/">here</a>, and learn more about <a href="https://www.jinazu.com/">John Inazu</a>, <a href="https://www.trillianewbell.com/">Trillia Newbell</a>, and <a href="https://www.michaelwear.com/">Michael Wear</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Libertys-Refuge-Forgotten-Freedom-Assembly/dp/0300173156"><em>Liberty’s Refuge: The Forgotten Freedom of Assembly</em></a><em>, </em>by John Inazu</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Confident-Pluralism-Surviving-Thriving-Difference/dp/022636545X"><em>Confident Pluralism: Surviving and Thriving Through Deep Difference</em></a><em>, </em>by John Inazu</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Ground-Living-Faithfully-Difference/dp/1400219604"><em>Uncommon Ground: Living Faithfully in a World of Difference</em></a><em>,</em> by John 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href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-74-pursuing-humility-with-richard-foster-and-brenda-quinn">Pursuing Humility with Richard Foster and Brenda Quinn<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-reading-as-a-spiritual-practice-with-jessica-hooten-wilson/">Reading as a Spiritual Practice with Jessica Hooten Wilson<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-walking-with-god-walking-as-a-spiritual-discipline-with-mark-buchanan/">Walking as a Spiritual Practice with Mark Buchanan<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-theology-of-making/">Making as a Spiritual Practice with Makoto Fujimura<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=online-conversation-connecting-spiritual-formation-public-life-with-michael-wear">Connecting Spiritual Formation & Public Life with Michael Wear<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/portfolios/online-conversation-the-kingdom-the-power-the-glory-with-tim-alberta/">The Kingdom, the Power & The Glory with Tim Alberta<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-80-a-life-worth-living-with-miroslav-volf">A Life Worth Living with Miroslav Volf<br></a><a href="https://www.ttf.org/?portfolio=episode-81-towards-a-better-christian-politics">Towards a Better Christian Politics</a></p><p><br>To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit<a href="https://www.ttf.org/trinity-forum-conversations/"> ttf.org/podcast</a> and to join the Trinity Forum Society and help make content like this possible,<a href="https://ttf.org/join"> join the Trinity Forum Society</a></p><p>Special thanks to<a href="https://www.worldsendimages.com/"> Ned Bustard</a> for our podcast artwork.</p><p><br></p>
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