by Rachelle Heinemann
This show will explore the deeper meaning of our relationship with food. We dive into issues related to body image, restriction, bingeing, purging, compulsive exercise, and eating disorder related behaviors. We utilize ideas from psychoanalysis, the deep work therapy, to bring you answers about why you do the things you do and one step closer to a healthier relationship with food and yourself.
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April 1, 2025
<p dir="ltr">In this episode, I sit down with therapist and author Ilene Fishman to explore what it really takes to achieve lasting recovery. We dive into the complex, sometimes uncomfortable truths about healing from an eating disorder, the importance of self-compassion, and why true freedom goes beyond simply “eating normally.”</p> <p dir="ltr">Ilene V. Fishman, LCSW, ACSW, FAED, has maintained a general psychotherapy practice specializing in the treatment of eating disorders for more than 40 years in both Montclair, NJ and New York City. Ilene helped found NEDA, serving on its Board of Directors for over a decade. She then served on the board of ProjectHEAL. Ilene speaks widely as an expert on the subject of eating disorders and is the author of the book, THE DEEPER FIX.</p> <p dir="ltr">Note: The podcast is off for the next two weeks! We will be back on April 22nd, with a new episode!</p> <h2 dir="ltr">Tweetable Quotes</h2> <p dir="ltr">"I don't wanna keep people comfortable. People will talk about, ‘Oh that therapist was so nice, she was such a nice person.’ But did you get better?” - Ilene Fishman</p> <p dir="ltr">"If we avoid our pain. If we don't suffer constructively, productively, then we're blocking ourselves." - Ilene Fishman</p> <p dir="ltr">"Tell your therapist everything. Try to find a therapist where you can say, 'I'm afraid to start therapy with you, and these are the reasons I'm afraid.' Let's talk about it." - Ilene Fishman</p> <p dir="ltr">"It's about taking the risk and being afraid and not really knowing what's gonna be on the other side and doing it with somebody who's gonna, who's gonna hopefully catch you, but that you need to do it scared." - Rachelle Heinemann</p> <p dir="ltr">"Good therapy should be growthful and empowering." - Ilene Fishman</p> <p dir="ltr">"Recovery is so worth it." - Ilene Fishman</p> <h2 dir="ltr">Resources</h2> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.ilenevfishman.com/">Connect with Ilene Fishman Here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/ilenevfishman/">Find Ilene Fishman on Instagram</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.amazon.com/dp/1977233880?ref=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_em_apin_dp_4ABQ8DVCSFXMR42N9A3Y&ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_em_apin_dp_4ABQ8DVCSFXMR42N9A3Y&social_share=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cso_em_apin_dp_4ABQ8DVCSFXMR42N9A3Y&bestFormat=true"> Check out Ilene’s book: The Deeper Fix: For Your Growth and Empowerment</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.rachelleheinemann.com/now-hiring">Bergen Mental Health Group Inc. is hiring! If you think you’d be a great fit, check it out!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.subscribepage.com/r9d0a7_copy">Grab my Journal Prompts Here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.rachelleheinemann.com/speaking">Looking for a speaker for an upcoming event? Let’s chat!</a></p> <p> </p> <p dir="ltr">LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone who may need this podcast by sharing this episode.</p> <p dir="ltr">Be sure to sign up for my <a href= "https://subscribepage.io/Sr2FwI">weekly newsletter here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr">You can connect with me on Instagram @rachelleheinemann, through my website <a href= "http://www.rachelleheinemann.com">www.rachelleheinemann.com</a>, or email me directly at [email protected]</p> <p> </p>
March 25, 2025
<p dir="ltr">When it comes to exercise and movement, we believe it is this wonderfully balanced, healthy thing, right? But for a lot of us, it’s… complicated. Maybe you feel like you have to move or else your anxiety will skyrocket. Maybe you mentally calculate every bite of food and match it with a “required” workout. Or maybe you find yourself hitting the gym even when you're sick, exhausted, or, oh—I don’t know—literally injured. Sound familiar?</p> <h2 dir="ltr">Tweetable Quotes</h2> <p dir="ltr">“It wasn’t about enjoying movement—it was about earning my food, controlling my body, and never feeling like I was doing enough.” - Rachelle Heinemann</p> <p dir="ltr">“At some point, I had to ask myself—am I moving because I love it, or because I’m afraid of what happens if I don’t?” - Rachelle Heinemann</p> <p dir="ltr">“The truth is, over-exercising isn’t healthy. It’s just another way to punish yourself under the disguise of ‘discipline.’” - Rachelle Heinemann</p> <p dir="ltr">“Recovery meant redefining movement—not as a requirement, but as something I get to do, not something I have to do.” - Rachelle Heinemann</p> <h2 dir="ltr">Resources</h2> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.rachelleheinemann.com/now-hiring">Bergen Mental Health Group Inc. is hiring! If you think you’d be a great fit, check it out!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.subscribepage.com/r9d0a7_copy">Grab my Journal Prompts Here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.rachelleheinemann.com/speaking">Looking for a speaker for an upcoming event? Let’s chat!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://pear-ukulele-6tww.squarespace.com/contact">Now accepting new clients! Find out if we're a good fit! </a></p> <p dir="ltr"><strong> </strong></p> <p dir="ltr">LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone who may need this podcast by sharing this episode.</p> <p dir="ltr">Be sure to sign up for my <a href= "https://subscribepage.io/Sr2FwI">weekly newsletter here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr">You can connect with me on Instagram @rachelleheinemann, through my website <a href= "http://www.rachelleheinemann.com">www.rachelleheinemann.com</a>, or email me directly at [email protected]</p>
March 18, 2025
<p dir="ltr">You know that feeling when you’d rather do literally anything than sit with your own emotions? Like, suddenly, cleaning out your junk drawer or reorganizing your spice rack sounds way more appealing than dealing with that uncomfortable feeling creeping in? Yeah, we’ve all been there.</p> <p dir="ltr">The truth is, our brains are wired to avoid pain and chase comfort—it’s a survival thing. The more we run from discomfort, the stronger it gets. It’s like that pushy friend who won’t take a hint and just keeps showing up.</p> <p>In this episode, I’m joined by Jenna Hollenstein for a second time! Jenna Hollenstein, MS, RDN, CDN, is an anti-diet dietitian-nutritionist, certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, speaker, meditation teacher, and author of five books, including <a href="https://amzn.to/3C2pXZj">Eat to Love</a> and <a href= "https://amzn.to/3SQNUZU">Intuitive Eating for Life</a>. She blends Intuitive Eating with mindfulness to help people transform food and body shame into joyful eating and movement.</p> <h2 dir="ltr">Tweetable Quotes</h2> <p dir="ltr">"We are not machines that are going to operate exactly as we want to operate." - Rachelle Heinemann</p> <p dir="ltr">"It takes a fair amount of mindfulness to say, I'm struggling right now. And I'm going to do my best to show up to what I had planned to do." - Jenna Hollenstein</p> <p dir="ltr">"We have to build the muscle of being with discomfort, and part of how we do that is by allowing ourselves to experience discomfort." - Jenna Hollenstein</p> <p dir="ltr">"Sitting with your emotions doesn’t mean you have to like them—it just means you stop running from them." - Jenna Hollenstein</p> <p dir="ltr">"Your brain thinks it’s protecting you by avoiding discomfort, but all it’s really doing is delaying the inevitable." - Jenna Hollenstein</p> <p dir="ltr">"Growth doesn’t come from feeling good all the time. It comes from learning to be okay when things aren’t easy." - Jenna Hollenstein</p> <p dir="ltr">"If you never let yourself sit in discomfort, how will you ever build the resilience to handle hard things?" - Jenna Hollenstein</p> <p dir="ltr">"Most of the time, the thing we’re avoiding isn’t actually as bad as we’ve built it up to be in our heads." - Jenna Hollenstein</p> <h2 dir="ltr">Resources</h2> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.jennahollenstein.com/">Visit Jenna’s Website Here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/jennahollenstein/">Connect with Jenna on Instagram!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.rachelleheinemann.com/now-hiring">Bergen Mental Health Group Inc. is hiring! If you think you’d be a great fit, check it out!</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Learn about our 6 week body image group! If you're interested, send an email to me ([email protected]), or you can <a href= "https://greene-health.squarespace.com/nutritioncounseling#page-section-6088c64ca6f5695c9e7ddd6f"> book a call with Sydney</a> to see if this would be a good fit!</p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.subscribepage.com/r9d0a7_copy">Grab my Journal Prompts Here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://www.rachelleheinemann.com/speaking">Looking for a speaker for an upcoming event? Let’s chat!</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href= "https://pear-ukulele-6tww.squarespace.com/contact">Now accepting new clients! Find out if we're a good fit! </a></p> <p dir="ltr"> </p> <p dir="ltr">LEAVE A REVIEW + help someone who may need this podcast by sharing this episode.</p> <p dir="ltr">Be sure to sign up for my <a href= "https://subscribepage.io/Sr2FwI">weekly newsletter here!</a></p> <p dir="ltr">You can connect with me on Instagram @rachelleheinemann, through my website <a href= "http://www.rachelleheinemann.com">www.rachelleheinemann.com</a>, or email me directly at [email protected]</p>
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