by UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose
Welcome to Valuable Conversations, a student-produced podcast from UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose (IIPP). In this series, students sit down with leading thinkers in economics, political economy, public administration, and technology for candid and unfiltered conversations about their life and work. Valuable Conversations is an opportunity to meet the people behind IIPP's leading research into rethinking the state, innovation, capitalism, and public policy.
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November 16, 2023
<p>In this episode of 'Valuable Conversations', MPA Alumni Justin Beirold and Coralie Gervaise from UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose discuss the importance of imagination in the public sphere with ‘renegade scientist’, Phoebe Tickell. Tickell, who has a background in microbiology, talks about her journey into systems thinking and her fascination with how science, governance, and economic systems impact our worldviews. Through her organization, Moral Imaginations, Phoebe aims at introducing imagination and the concept of 'imagination activism' into policy-making, ambitioning to transform societal perceptions and behaviors. She explores the concept of imagination as a transformative tool, noting its impact on the Camden Council's approach to policy-making. She further delves into the importance of integrating future generations and non-human actors in public policy and highlights the importance of art, theater, and creativity in this process. In conclusion, they discuss the fundamental role of imagination in times of scarce resources and the challenge it poses for changing societal behaviors.</p> <p>Learn more about Phoebe:</p> <p>- Phoebe Tickell (<a href="https://www.phoebetickell.com/">Link</a>) <a href="https://www.phoebetickell.com/">https://www.phoebetickell.com/</a></p> <p>- Camden Imagines Report (<a href="https://www.moralimaginations.com/camden-imagines">Link</a>) <a href="https://www.moralimaginations.com/camden-imagines">https://www.moralimaginations.com/camden-imagines</a></p> <p>- Follow Phoebe on Twitter: @PhoebeTickell</p> <p>Follow IIPP on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/IIPP_UCL">@IIPP_UCL </a></p> <p><a href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/">https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/</a></p> <p>Production and music by Justin Beirold</p>
November 16, 2023
<p>Welcome to Valuable Conversations with the Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose. In this episode, MPA Alumni Justin Beirold and André Ribeiro Coutinho talk to Venkat Ramaswamy, Professor of Marketing at the Ross School of Business, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, USA. Venkat is a globally recognized thought leader, idea practitioner, and eclectic scholar with wide-ranging interests in innovation, strategy, marketing, branding, IT, operations, and the human side of the organization. We were very excited to sit down with Venkat, who studies many topics that we are familiar with at IIPP - including public value, co-creation, and digital public infrastructure - but from the academic discipline of business and management rather than public administration. <br></p> <p>Professor Ramaswamy provides insight into the evolution of the “India Stack”, its digital public goods, and the government's role as an entrepreneur. The conversation pivots to 'experience-first' digital transformations, focusing on the interplay of Web 3.0, NFTs and digital asset ownership. The surge of start-ups in India, alongside its digital asset expansion, aims for fairness and ease of participation in this digital reshaping. Ramaswamy underscores the need for an interdisciplinary approach to education, enabling future generations to understand intricate human and environmental interactions within the digital world. This dialogue provides an in-depth overview of co-creation, its impacts on sustainable development, digital asset growth, and the future of digital interactions in an increasingly interconnected world.<br></p> <p>Learn more about Venkat:</p> <p>- Venkat Ramaswamy (<a href="https://michiganross.umich.edu/faculty-research/faculty/venkatram-ramaswamy">Link</a>) <a href="https://michiganross.umich.edu/faculty-research/faculty/venkatram-ramaswamy">https://michiganross.umich.edu/faculty-research/faculty/venkatram-ramaswamy</a></p> <p>- Follow Venkat on Twitter: @VenkRamaswamy</p> <p>Follow IIPP on Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/IIPP_UCL">@IIPP_UCL </a></p> <p><a href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/">https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/</a></p> <p>Production and music by Justin Beirold</p> <p><br></p>
February 1, 2023
<p>Welcome to Valuable Conversations with the Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose. On this episode, MPA alumni Justin Beirold sits down with Ph.D. candidate Nai Kalema. If you have been following this podcast, you heard Nai as co-host on several episodes, including our conversations with George the Poet, George Aye, and Damon Silvers. But today is all about Nai. Nai is a brilliant scholar and practitioner, who has been working for years on topics including global development, innovation, and strategic design. Her Ph.D. thesis is about digital transformation and determinants of health and their relationship with Digital Identity systems in Kenya and Uganda. The recording of this episode was unusual. Typically we book a guest, record the episode, and then I lightly edit it before release. But with Nai it went a little differently. I first interviewed her when we just started working together on the podcast, in November 2021. In that conversation, we talked about her life - growing up in Minnesota, attending George Washington University, and watching the Black Lives Matter movement emerged in her home state after the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis. We discussed her work at MIT and Harvard on global development and innovation policy, and how she got interested in design. And she told me why she chose to attend IIPP for her Ph.D. research. We also talked about her research. But this is where we changed things up. By the time I was ready to release the episode, quite a lot of time had passed. And most importantly, Nai has made enormous progress in her research - including narrowing down her topic to health and digital ID systems in Kenya and Uganda. So what you are about to hear is two interviews: one on her life journey and background, and a second one, recorded nearly a year later in October 2022, where we dig in deep on the research: Digital ID, the fact that both Biometrics and Eugenics were both invented at UCL by the same person - Sir Francis Galton - and some of the bigger picture concepts like data colonialism. Because this episode is long, I’ve included time stamps if you want to skip around. Nai is so awesome that I have tried to work with her as much as possible. It is worth noting that along with George the Poet, Nai is the first black PhD student at IIPP. And as we discuss in the conversation, I think she is the perfect person to assume that mantle. I’ve learned so much from her, and I’m so grateful for her hard work and time. I hope you enjoy my conversations with Nai Kalema. *****-3 min: Nai’s life journey, education, working in development and innovation -34 min: why Nai chose IIPP for her Ph.D. research -48 min: Design Justice -55 min: Nai’s Ph.D. research on digital ID and health in Kenya and Uganda.***** -Recorded in two conversations: November 2021 and October 2022 -Learn more about Nai: - Nai Kalema https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/nai-lee-kalema - Follow Nai on Twitterr: @NaiKalema -Learn about our host: - Justin Beirold https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/justin-beirold - Justin’s Twitter: @VibeEconomy -Follow IIPP on Twitter: @IIPP_UCL https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/ -Production and music by Justin Beirold</p> <p><br></p>
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