by Jonathan Greene
What if you could learn from experienced real estate investors, find out what got them to where they are now, get insight into their daily habits, and take these insights to inspire your own growth? That’s what each episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing brings. Hosted by Jonathan Greene, a real estate investor for more than 30 years, as well as advisor and coach, the founder of Streamlined Properties and the Team Leader of Streamlined Properties, brokered by Real, every episode is an in-depth look at the mindful approach to real estate investing. If you are looking to start from scratch, get to the next level, or just for a straightforward and honest approach to real estate investing, Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing is the free mentorship program you can take with you anywhere.
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April 21, 2025
<p dir="ltr">Multifamily is an asset class that shows no signs of slowing down, but carefully choosing where to place that money can ensure your investment is worthwhile.</p> <p dir="ltr">On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Mike Madsen, Vice President of Acquisitions and Economics at RealSource Residential. RealSource is focused on long-term and sustainable growth and has a multifamily track record with more than $1 billion in cumulative investments and 6,300 renovated apartments.</p> <p dir="ltr">Jonathan and Mike begin their discussion by exploring what makes multifamily a great investment and Mike’s market outlook for housing and multifamily. You’ll hear about the pent-up demand for housing, how it will continue to impact rents, and the factors Mike uses to determine where to invest. He also shares his family history in real estate investing, the best markets to move to right now, and Mike’s preference for value-add properties. Mike explains how you can mitigate risk in multifamily, where the operational sweet spot is, and what markets he has his eye on right now. He reveals the metrics he uses to evaluate a value-add property, the amenities tenants are looking for in this market, and how RealSource Residential helps investors discover their next investment.</p> <p dir="ltr">Multifamily continues to be a hot topic in real estate investing, and Mike Madsen outlines his tips for ensuring you make a sound investment.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>In this episode, you will hear:</strong></p> <ul> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Why multifamily is always an excellent investment</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Mike Madsen’s market outlook for housing and multifamily opportunities</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">The pent-up demand for housing and how it’s going to continue to impact rents</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Factors Mike uses to determine where to invest</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">His family history in real estate investing and how Mike started his own journey</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">The best markets to move to right now, based on his evaluation metrics</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Out-of-state investing and Mike’s preference for value-add properties</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Mitigating risk in multifamily and the sweet spot for operational economies of scale</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">The markets Mike has his eye on right now, the metrics he uses to evaluate a value-add property, and how occupancy rates impact renovations</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Additional amenities tenants now look for in a multifamily property</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">How Mike’s company, RealSource Residential, helps investors find their next investment</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Mike Madsen’s advice for investors looking to get into multifamily</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Follow and Review:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/zen-and-the-art-of-real-estate-investing/id1618352739"> Apple Podcasts</a>. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Supporting Resources:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">RealSource Residential website - <a href= "http://www.realsourceresidential.com/">www.realsourceresidential.com</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Connect with Mike Madsen on LinkedIn - <a href= "http://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-madsen-Utah">www.linkedin.com/in/michael-madsen-Utah</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Website - <a href= "http://www.streamlined.properties/">www.streamlined.properties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">YouTube - <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos">www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Instagram - <a href= "http://www.instagram.com/trustgreene">www.instagram.com/trustgreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Instagram - <a href= "http://www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties">www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">TikTok - <a href= "http://www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene">www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Zillow - <a href= "http://www.zillow.com/profile/Streamlined%20Prop%20eXp"></a><a href="https://www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal">www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Bigger Pockets - <a href= "http://www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene">www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Facebook - <a href= "http://www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties/">www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Email - <a href= "http://[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Episode Credits</strong></p> <p>If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at <a href= "https://emeraldcitypro.com/">https://emeraldcitypro.com</a> Let them know we sent you.</p>
April 17, 2025
<p dir="ltr">Politics is often blamed for economic shifts, but there are usually more factors at play. Today’s guest is an economic expert who explains how it can impact investors and buyers alike.</p> <p dir="ltr">On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Lauren Saidel-Baker, an economist with ITR Economics, the oldest privately-held, continuously operating economic research and consulting firm in the U.S. ITR Economics was founded in 1948.</p> <p dir="ltr">Jonathan and Lauren start the discussion by explaining how ITR Economics predicts economic shifts and how Lauren became an economist with ITR after a stint in asset management. She shares how politics and election cycles can affect economics, her predictions for 2025, and what real estate investors should look for. You’ll hear the disruptions that natural disasters, population shifts, and weather can have on the economy, what regular homebuyers and investors should be looking for with purchases, and the trajectory of the real estate market in the next five years. Lauren outlines the potential opportunities real estate may offer with an economic downturn, her advice for remaining in real estate during economic disruption, and what she’s doing to prepare for a potential economic depression.</p> <p dir="ltr">The economy is frequently in the news, but we don’t often hear about the impact it can have on specific industries. Lauren Saidel-Baker makes the case for real estate even during economic turmoil.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>In this episode, you will hear:</strong></p> <ul> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Lauren Saidel-Baker’s explanation of how ITR Economics predicts economic shifts</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Her introduction to economics through a job after college in asset management, and what she loves about working at ITR Economics</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">How election cycles impact economics</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Lauren’s predictions for 2025 in comparison to 2024 and what real estate investors should look out for</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Disruptions that natural disasters can create, and the impact of population shifts and weather</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">What regular homebuyers and investors should look for when they make a purchase</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">The trajectory of real estate for the next five years based on current data</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Real estate opportunities that are likely with an economic downturn</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Population shifts around the country based on affordability</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">What Lauren suggests for buyers in 2025 and the continued demand for multifamily assets</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Her advice for those who want to remain in real estate but are concerned about economic disruption, and how consumers can remain apprised of economic shifts</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">What Lauren is doing to prepare for the coming economic depression</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Follow and Review:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/zen-and-the-art-of-real-estate-investing/id1618352739"> Apple Podcasts</a>. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.</p> <p dir="ltr">If you enjoyed this episode, we've created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at https://zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com/podcast/234/ to download it.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Supporting Resources:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">ITR Economics - <a href= "https://itreconomics.com/">itreconomics.com</a></p> <p dir="ltr">ITR Economics on YouTube - <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJx7dfActtS_noNjNq6sumA">www.youtube.com/channel/UCJx7dfActtS_noNjNq6sumA</a></p> <p dir="ltr">ITR Economics on Facebook - <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/ITREconomics77/">www.facebook.com/ITREconomics77</a></p> <p dir="ltr">ITR Economics’s Instagram - <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/itreconomics/">www.instagram.com/itreconomics</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Follow ITR Economics on LinkedIn - <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/company/itr-economics">www.linkedin.com/company/itr-economics</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Website - <a href= "http://www.streamlined.properties/">www.streamlined.properties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">YouTube - <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos">www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Instagram - <a href= "http://www.instagram.com/trustgreene">www.instagram.com/trustgreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Instagram - <a href= "http://www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties">www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">TikTok - <a href= "http://www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene">www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Zillow - <a href= "http://www.zillow.com/profile/Streamlined%20Prop%20eXp"></a><a href="https://www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal">www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Bigger Pockets - <a href= "http://www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene">www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Facebook - <a href= "http://www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties/">www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Email - <a href= "http://[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Episode Credits</strong></p> <p>If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at <a href= "https://emeraldcitypro.com/">https://emeraldcitypro.com</a> Let them know we sent you.</p>
April 14, 2025
<p dir="ltr">Accessory dwelling units (ADUs) and their cousin, detached accessory dwelling units (DADUs), can offer tremendous benefits and add value to a property.</p> <p dir="ltr">On this solo episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan shares his long history with ADUs and DADUs, beginning with his childhood. He outlines the main differences between ADUs and DADUs and the regulations that can impact them in your particular location. You’ll hear how these units can offer independent living spaces to teenagers and young adults while keeping them close, the benefits of using them as short- or mid-term rentals, and why Jonathan views them as a big value-add when considering a property.</p> <p dir="ltr">Jonathan has a long and varied history with real estate, and his unique take on ADUs and DADUs may make you think twice before turning down a property with one on the premises.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>In this episode, you will hear:</strong></p> <ul> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">ADUs and DADUs as a solution to the affordable housing crisis</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">The differences between an accessory dwelling unit (ADU) and a detached accessory dwelling unit (DADU)</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Understanding the regulations surrounding ADUs and DADUs in your area</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Jonathan’s personal history with this real estate asset class and using them as an independent living space as a teenager</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">The benefits of putting teenagers in ADUs or DADUs for the summer vacations</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Renting your ADU as a short-term or mid-term rental when your community allows it</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">The multiple uses ADUs can have and buying homes with them as a feature</li> <li dir="ltr" role="presentation">Added value and opportunities these units add to a property</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Follow and Review:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/zen-and-the-art-of-real-estate-investing/id1618352739"> Apple Podcasts</a>. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Supporting Resources:</strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Website - <a href= "http://www.streamlined.properties/">www.streamlined.properties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">YouTube - <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos">www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Instagram - <a href= "http://www.instagram.com/trustgreene">www.instagram.com/trustgreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Instagram - <a href= "http://www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties">www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">TikTok - <a href= "http://www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene">www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Zillow - <a href= "https://www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal">www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Bigger Pockets - <a href= "http://www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene">www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Facebook - <a href= "http://www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties/">www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Email - <a href= "http://[email protected]">[email protected]</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><strong>Episode Credits</strong></p> <p>If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at <a href= "https://emeraldcitypro.com/">https://emeraldcitypro.com</a> Let them know we sent you.</p>
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