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「忽左忽右」是一档文化沙龙类播客节目，试图为中文播客听众提供基于经验视角的话题和内容。本节目由JustPod出品。曾荣获苹果播客2019年度播客。
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April 18, 2025
<p><img src="https://justpodmedia.com/pic/首相塔 封面.png" alt="" width="1401" height="1401" /></p> <br /> <div data-page-id="UeO0dtVh2oipzoxFvrmck8EZnud" data-lark-html-role="root" data-docx-has-block-data="false"> <div class="ace-line ace-line old-record-id-P47WdhU2moKzsxx0VjXcB1LZnPd"> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">本期节目是「首相塔」系列付费播客节目，请移步公众号「忽左忽右</span>leftright<span style="font-family: 宋体;">」、小宇宙</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">app</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">、喜马拉雅</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">fm</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">、网易云音乐和公众号付费收听。下面是本集节目的试听。</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"> </span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"> </p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">导语</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;"> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">-</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">提起意大利统一的历史进程，人们往往首先想起</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;">“红衫军”和统一运动领袖加里波第，却容易忽略首相加富尔。他貌不惊人，非克里斯玛型领袖，也非演说大师，却凭借审时度势的智慧悄然推动统一。从地理格局说起，为什么意大利的统一进程比德国更加艰难？从皮埃蒙特首相到意大利统一的关键推手，加富尔如何在大国博弈与国内革命中巧妙布局？面对理想主义者加里波第，他又如何借助“人民力量”最终促成意大利的统一？请听本期节目陆大鹏的分享！</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">本期话题成员</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;"> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">-</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">程衍樑（微博</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">@GrenadierGuard2</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">）</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">陆大鹏，世界史研究者，英德译者，著有《德意志贵族》《巴比伦怪物：魏玛共和国犯罪鉴证实录》等，译有《阿拉伯的劳伦斯》等。</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">时间轴</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;"> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">-</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">05:48 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">意大利统一为何比德国更艰难？</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">11:54 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">加富尔的两手准备：外交联法、内聚民意</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">19:52 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">西罗马、但丁和意大利民族意识的萌芽</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">30:51 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">第一次独立战争：北意大利败于拉德茨基之手，加里波第复兴罗马</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">41:43 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">一个反对革命的改良派和君主主义者</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">46:35 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">「唯有奥地利人受伤的世界达成了」</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">55:41 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">刺刀下的投票：萨伏依和尼斯的公投入法</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">01:04:23 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">为顾全法意关系，加富尔派加里波第远征西西里</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">01:12:03 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">加富尔踩刹车、国王踩油门：意大利统一运动的领导权争夺</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">01:16:40 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">加里波第急流勇退，加富尔力竭离世</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">01:24:16 <span style="font-family: 宋体;">「要么罗马，要么死」：走向色当的法国与拿下罗马的意大利</span></span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; 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April 15, 2025
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April 11, 2025
<p><img src="https://justpodmedia.com/pic/首相塔 封面.png" alt="" width="1401" height="1401" /></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">本期节目是「首相塔」系列付费播客节目</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">，</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">完整内容</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">请移步公众号「忽左忽右</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">leftright</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">」、小宇宙</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">app</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">、喜马拉雅</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">fm</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">、网易云音乐和公众号付费收听。</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">导语</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;"> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">-</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0.0001pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 10.5pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; font-size: 12pt;">当一位小说家登上首相之位，他的政治目光会投向何方？「政治小说大师」迪斯雷利，关注底层民生、上层责任、帝国主义，而这些政治取向，在现代政治光谱中似乎难以准确定位。回到十九世纪的英国，保守党为何格外关心工人权益与社会改革？俄土战争的硝烟弥漫几个世纪，迪斯雷利如何在欧洲大国博弈中扮演关键角色？一位中产阶级出身的文人首相，为何能与维多利亚女王长期维持亲密的情谊？请听本期节目陆大鹏的分享！</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"> </span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">- </span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体;">本期话题成员</span><span style="font-family: 宋体;"> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">-</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">程衍樑（微博</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">@GrenadierGuard2</span><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">）</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; letter-spacing: 0pt; font-size: 12pt;">陆大鹏，世界史研究者，英德译者，著有《德意志贵族》《巴比伦怪物：魏玛共和国犯罪鉴证实录》等，译有《阿拉伯的劳伦斯》等。</span></p> <p class="p" style="margin: 5pt 0pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 12pt; text-indent: 0pt;"><span style="font-family: 宋体; 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