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April 18, 2025
SHOW NOTES<br /> Episode 327. Unlocking Workplace Influence By Learning to Manage Up <br /> Guest: Melody Wilding, Professor, author, and career coach<br /> THIS WEEK’S TOPIC: Ever wonder why managing up feels more confusing—or downright daunting—than any other professional skill? This week, we’re diving into what managing up truly means with Melody Wilding, executive coach, licensed social worker, and bestselling author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Trust-Yourself-Overthinking-Channel-Emotions/dp/1797201964">“Trust Yourself” </a>and <a href="https://melodywilding.com/managingup/">“Managing Up”.</a><br /> Managing up is not about “sucking up” or politics, but about taking charge of your own success, building alignment, and setting boundaries for sustainable, productive relationships—including with colleagues, clients, and even your board. Melody shares the essential, learnable skillsets that can help you move from overthinking and self-doubt into clarity, confidence, and influence at work—especially in our hybrid, matrixed workplaces.<br /> We unpack her pivotal career moment (a surprise job termination!), discuss navigating imposter syndrome, the nuances of power dynamics, and practical scripts for feedback and visibility. Whether you have a boss or answer to a host of stakeholders, this episode will change how you think about influence and self-advocacy in your career journey.<br /> ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST: <a href="https://melodywilding.com/">Melody Wilding</a> is an executive coach, Licensed Social Worker (LMSW), speaker, author of Trust Yourself and Managing Up, and host of the “Psychology at Work” podcast. Melody specializes in helping sensitive high-achievers conquer self-doubt to become influential leaders. Her work is a blend of psychological insight and practical career strategies, and her mission is to help you harness your inner power in complex, people-driven environments.<br /> KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: THE TRUE DEFINITION OF MANAGING UP: Melody reframes managing up as an internal shift—focusing less on the boss, and more on self-advocacy, boundary setting, and creating your own conditions for success.<br /> IMPOSTER SYNDROME & INTERNALIZING SUCCESS: Melody gives a new perspective on “imposter feelings,” sharing why high achievers struggle to internalize their accomplishments and how you can create your own “brag book” to counteract negativity bias.<br /> NAVIGATING POWER DYNAMICS: Learn how to assess your “pushback power” and why self-awareness and situational savvy are key to setting boundaries at every level—from junior staff to seasoned executives.<br /> THE ART OF ALIGNMENT: Discover the essential questions to reset and clarify alignment with your manager—what does success look like, what’s keeping your boss up at night, and how can you connect project work to the bigger picture?<br /> COMMUNICATION & FEEDBACK SCRIPTS: Melody shares frameworks like “Problem, Action, Solution” and “We, then Me” that enable you to shine the spotlight strategically—promoting both team and personal wins without tipping into self-promotion overload.<br /> VISIBILITY WITHOUT OVERDOING IT: Master ways to increase your internal and external visibility (even in hybrid and remote settings) through storytelling, results-based updates, and strategic networking. Bonus: learn Melody’s favorite hack for expanding your influence beyond the org chart.<br /> This episode is packed with actionable advice, mindset shifts, and the inside track on navigating relationships at work— and in life — with more confidence and less second-guessing.<br /> I can’t wait to hear from you! What’s your biggest managing up challenge or breakthrough? Reach out and let us know!<br /> EXCLUSIVE OFFER! Support She Said/She Said Podcast by shopping Eric Javits:<a href="http://www.ericjavits.com"> www.EricJavits.com</a> and be sure to use our exclusive promo code SHESAID for 20% off your purchase! Be sure to share a photo,
April 11, 2025
SHOW NOTES<br /> Title: “Are You Building the Right Kind of Currency for Career Success?” <br /> Episode 326<br /> Guest: Lareina Yee<br /> THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:<br /> What if the way you’re collecting professional experiences is more valuable than the titles on your resume? In this eye-opening episode, Lareina Yee, Executive Partner at McKinsey and co-author of “The Broken Rung,” introduces us to the game-changing concept of “experience capital” – the true currency that propels careers forward. Discover how strategically curating your professional experiences can exponentially increase your career value and why understanding this concept is crucial for women navigating the corporate ladder. This conversation reveals why the “broken rung” on the career ladder affects women long before they ever encounter the glass ceiling, and offers practical strategies to build the right kind of capital for sustainable success.<br /> ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST:<br /> Lareina Yee is an executive partner at McKinsey who co-founded the Women in the Workplace research initiative, capturing more than a decade of data-driven insights on gender in the workplace. With her co-authors in “The Broken Rung,” Lareina examines the overlooked barriers women face early in their careers and provides strategic approaches to overcoming these challenges.<br /> KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:<br /> EXPERIENCE CAPITAL EXPLAINED: Understand how the professional experiences you collect become your career currency – with Lareina explaining that 50% of your lifetime earnings comes from what you gain on the job. Learn how to strategically select roles, responsibilities, and projects that build your portfolio of skills and demonstrate your readiness for advancement.<br /> BOLD CAREER MOVES THAT PAY OFF: Discover why stepping into roles where 20% of the requirements terrify you might be exactly what your career needs. Lareina shares why periodic job changes and stretching beyond your comfort zone accelerates your experience capital growth.<br /> CHOOSING COMPANIES, NOT JUST JOBS: Learn why “picking a company, not a job” is critical early in your career, and how to evaluate which organizations will truly invest in your development.<br /> P&L RESPONSIBILITY AS A CAREER ACCELERATOR: Find out why having profit and loss responsibility, even temporarily, dramatically increases your experience capital and future opportunities.<br /> TRANSFORMING MOTHERHOOD INTO A CAPITAL BUILDER: Challenge conventional thinking about career breaks with strategies for creating a “round trip ticket” that turns parenthood into an experience capital advantage.<br /> LEVERAGING YOUR NETWORK STRATEGICALLY: Understand the crucial difference between mentors who guide and sponsors who open doors, and how to cultivate both types of relationships.<br /> This episode provides actionable insights on building your professional currency in ways you might never have considered. I’m eager to hear how the concept of experience capital might reshape your approach to career development! Connect with me and share how you’re thinking about your own experience capital – is this concept new to you? Something that might shift how you’re thinking about your professional journey? Let me know!<br /> LINKS MENTIONED: <br /> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Rung-Career-Women-Succeed/dp/1647827183">The Broken Rung by Kweilin Ellingrud, Lareina Yee, and Maria Del Mar Martinez</a><br /> LOOKING FOR MORE SHE SAID/SHE SAID?<br /> You’ll find all of my episodes and content<a href="https://linktr.ee/LauraCoxKaplan?fbclid=PAAaZpQoAKegZspoAJ1pbVSYqe-pSS-YVV5nciU8orElfDcIZ4FCbFiJN_MiU"> here</a>! <br /> <br /> LET’S CONNECT! <br /> – Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lauracoxkaplan/?hl=en"> Instagram</a>,<br /> <a href="https://www.linkedin.
March 28, 2025
SHOW NOTES<br /> Episode 325: Who Believed in You? The Transformative Power of Mentorship<br /> Guest: Dina Powell McCormick<br /> THIS WEEK’S TOPIC:<br /> Ever consider how a simple word of encouragement or a nudge could alter the course of your life? This week’s episode delves into the power of mentorship with Dina Powell McCormick. In this conversation, we discuss how mentorship can transcend beyond career growth, fostering trust and unity in a divided world. Whether you are seeking a mentor or aspiring to become one, Dina’s insights are invaluable.<br /> ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST:<br /> Dina Powell McCormick is a remarkable leader whose career spans public service and finance. She served two U.S. Presidents, held a senior partner role at Goldman Sachs, and is now Vice Chair at BDT and MSD Partners. Alongside her husband, U.S. Senator Dave McCormick, she has co-authored <a href="https://bit.ly/3QRnDuz">“Who Believed in You?”</a>, a compelling new book about the life-changing role of mentors. Find inspiration in Dina’s journey from her early days as an Egyptian immigrant in Texas to becoming a global leader and advocate for mentorship.<br /> KEY TOPICS AND WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:<br /> THE IMPACT OF MENTORSHIP: Discover how a mentor’s belief can transform lives and why mentors are pivotal in seeing potential in us that we may not see in ourselves.<br /> BUILDING TRUST: Dina shares how mentorship can rebuild trust in a world where institutional trust is waning, emphasizing that meaningful connections start with one person at a time.<br /> DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN TRANSACTIONAL AND TRANSFORMATIONAL MENTORING: Learn why it’s vital to engage in deep, value-based mentoring relationships that transcend mere transactional exchanges.<br /> THE ROLE OF FEEDBACK AND TOUGH LOVE: Dina and Laura discuss the importance of receiving and being open to constructive criticism, and how it contributes to personal and professional growth.<br /> THE GENDER DIMENSION IN MENTORSHIP: Addressing how post-MeToo gender dynamics in mentorship have evolved, and why cross gender mentorship is important.<br /> PRACTICAL TIPS FOR BEING A GREAT MENTEE: Dina provides actionable advice on how to maximize the mentoring relationship through preparation and engagement.<br /> This episode has a wealth of wisdom to guide your mentorship journey. We’re eager to hear which stories and insights resonate with you. And, most importantly we would love to hear who believed in YOU?<br /> Links:<br /> <a href="https://www.harpercollinsleadership.com/books/who-believed-in-you/">Book Trailer: Who believed in YOU?</a><br /> LOOKING FOR MORE SHE SAID/SHE SAID? You’ll find all of my episodes and content<a href="https://linktr.ee/LauraCoxKaplan?fbclid=PAAaZpQoAKegZspoAJ1pbVSYqe-pSS-YVV5nciU8orElfDcIZ4FCbFiJN_MiU"> here</a>!<br /> LET’S CONNECT!<br /> – Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/lauracoxkaplan/?hl=en"> Instagram</a>,<br /> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauracoxkaplan">– Linked In: Linked In</a><br /> – Facebook: <a href="https://m.facebook.com/laura.cox.kaplan/">Facebook</a>.<br /> – Contact Laura Cox Kaplan: shesaidshesaidpodcast.com<br /> – Email: [email protected]<br /> **PLEASE RATE AND REVIEW SHE SAID/SHE SAID PODCAST**<br /> Please consider sharing some love in the form of a review of She Said/She Said Podcast on Spotify, iTunes, GooglePlay, or wherever you listen to this podcast. Reviews help us improve the content so you get more of what you enjoy and are looking for from She Said/She Said Podcast. Many thanks!<br /> **Note:** She Said/She Said Podcast is a weekly production of She Said/She Said Media.<br />
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