by Jennie Love
A show about regenerative flower farming. Hosted by Jennie Love of Love 'n Fresh Flowers, a flower farm in Philadelphia.
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March 3, 2025
<p class="MsoNormal">Dave Dowling is back for this episode. He’s a fan favorite and if you haven’t already listened to the Everything Tulips episode and Everything Ranunculus episode here, be sure to go back to grab those.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> Dave is well-known in the flower farmer sphere for his wealth of knowledge and decades of experience in farming and sales.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">I asked Dave back so he could help me hash out what flowers are viable crops for November sales.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">I’ve heard more and more growers talking about skipping summer production in favor of focusing on the shoulder seasons, myself included. The summer heat can flatten you.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> And summer sales tend to drop off as everyone goes on holiday.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> And after a whole season of training customers to buy from you, it’s a shame to just drop them at the first frost.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Here in the northern Hemisphere, there’s tremendous opportunity for brisk sales in November, if you have some infrastructure like a high tunnel or greenhouse.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> Retail sales reach a near fever pitch as customers realize cold weather is setting in and they’ll soon be without their local harvests.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> Thanksgiving can be a big floral holiday here in the U.S..<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> Wedding florists are still quite busy too in November as many couples have opted for a shoulder season date to either save a little on the budget or to also avoid that damn summer heat.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">The problem is that usually we just think of mums when it comes to end of season sales.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> And even with all the specialty and heirloom varieties available to growers at the moment, mums alone don’t make a bouquet.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> Weather you’re selling at farmers market, doing weddings yourself, or selling wholesale to florists, you need a more diverse product mix to grab interest and bigger sales.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Dave and I go over <strong>a list of 10 late fall crops</strong> that can be harvested for gorgeous November bouquets and a really nice injection of cash in your bank account right before winter.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> Be sure to have a notebook handy when listening so you can jot down the particulars of each.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> For easy reference, here are the 10 crops we discuss (NOTE, these are crops grown in a tunnel/greenhouse): </p> <ol> <li class="MsoNormal">Stock</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Flowering Cabbage/Kale</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Snapdragons (Group 2 or 3)</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Sunflowers</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Lisianthus</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Lillies (LA Royal Sunset and Callas) </li> <li class="MsoNormal">Alstromeria</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Mums</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Celosia</li> <li class="MsoNormal">Eucalyptus</li> </ol> <p> </p> <p><strong>WANT TO LEARN MORE?</strong> </p> <p>Join the <a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/"><strong>Regenerative Flower Farmers Network (RFFN) for just $20/year</strong> if you'd like to continue the conversation on topics covered in this episode.</a></p> <p>You'll also gain access to lots of helpful articles, discussion boards, and online courses. </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>On-demand Online Courses for Farmers Available on RFFN: </strong></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/356943?bundle_token=3c34f8cb0a4631393c9c55796ed7edf9&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Foliage for the Win</strong></a></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/356851?bundle_token=47b0c3257d98fe9c49805683de93f14f&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Successful Flower CSAs and Subscriptions</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/361148?bundle_token=767d4a55fc6e9f21d5f92d6879f9059b&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">CREW: Hiring and Managing</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/1471740?bundle_token=e928096de30fb6cfd3b22838bec97aae&utm_source=manual"> Simple Steps to Better Marketing</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/1508420?bundle_token=87a91200e78f27c7e038f1221bd03613&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Woodies: Playing the Long Game</strong></a></li> </ul> <p class="MsoNormal">Tap into the above courses and resources any time you need. These are available on-demand through the Regenerative Flower Farmers Network. </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong> </strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>>>> F<a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/366037?bundle_token=37710511400c4badd685fa845a8f6a7e&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">OR THE MONTH OF MARCH, GET 3 SHORT COURSES FOR $300.</a> <<< </strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Past episodes with Dave Dowling further listening include:</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/the-everything-ranunculus-episode-with-dave-dowling-of-ball-colorlink" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Everything Ranunculus with Dave Dowling</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/dave-dowling-of-ball-colorlink" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Everything Tulips with Dave Dowling</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">HAVE IDEAS AND FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PODCAST? Share your opinions in <strong><a href= "https://forms.gle/Qnhazd6KC9RyN3oD9">this brief survey.</a></strong> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">As always, if you appreciate this podcast and all the education it provides, <strong>please take a moment out of your day to rate and write a review</strong> for it on <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-no-till-flowers-podcast/id1545850888">Apple Podcasts</a> or wherever you are listening to it. </p>
February 4, 2025
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve long followed the fascinating research of <a href= "https://plantbiology.rutgers.edu/personnel/faculty/james-white" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Dr. James White</strong></a> of <a href="https://plantbiology.rutgers.edu/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Rutgers University</a> in New Jersey.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> He is a plant pathologist with a PhD in mycology.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> His specialty is "symbiosis research", particularly the impact of endophytic microbes in plant development and behavior. The nerdiest among you will rejoice at a science-rich episode in which Dr. White helps us understand how bacteria and fungus enter a plant as endophytes to help plants defend against stress, diseases and pests as well as provide the nutrients they need for growth and development.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Turns out plants are farmers too!<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> And in many ways we human farmers need to get out of their way and let them do their own work!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">In this episodes we talk about the rhizophagy cycle, in which microbes – not humans – provide the nutrients plants need.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">We also talk about how we can support the rhizophagy cycle by boosting soil biology as a whole, something many of you are already doing through regenerative farming.</p> <p class="MsoNormal">And we talk about how seed production can be adjusted to produce stock for healthier plants and greater resiliency in the face of climate change.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> So if you’re seed saving, make sure you listen closely to that part!</p> <p class="MsoNormal">What’s really exciting about Dr. White’s research is two parts:</p> <p class="MsoNormal">First, his work has shown that if we pay attention to soil biology – namely endophytes -- we create disease suppressing soils.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> With a bounty of diverse biology in the soil, devastating diseases like fusarium and pythium not only become benign but may even become beneficial! Whaaaaa???</p> <p class="MsoNormal">Secondly, while Dr. White has not conducted research directly on <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/jadam-basics-making-jms-and-other-natural-inputs" target="_blank" rel="noopener">homemade inputs</a> like <strong><a href= "https://lovenfreshflowers.com/2021/02/06/homemade-regenerative-inputs-weed-juice/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">JADAM Liquid Fertilizer</a></strong> and other brews a la Korean Natural Farming, he absolutely sees a correlation between them and his studies of the impact of endophytic microbes on plant health and production.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> In particular, he sees these inputs as very beneficial at the time of seed starting, helping to load up the soil surrounding the seed with diverse and bountiful biology, which will lead to <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/why-i-love-to-spray-at-my-farm-boosting-the-phyllosphere" target="_blank" rel="noopener">better root development and disease resistance.</a><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Which means this is a great time to remind you to go back in the archives here of No-Till Flowers and relisten to <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/seed-starting-regenerative-style-with-lisa-mason-zeigler-from-the-gardeners-workshop" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Episode 28 where I talked with Lisa Zeigler about Seed Starting, Regenerative Style</strong></a>.<span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span> <span style= "mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">Learn more from Dr. James White by listening to these two episdoes on the Regenerative Agriculture Podcast with John Kempf: </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://regenerativeagriculturepodcast.com/episodes/episode-99-reshaping-how-agriculture-sees-plant-nutrient-uptake-with-dr-james-white/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Reshaping How Agriculture Sees Plant Nutrient Uptake</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://regenerativeagriculturepodcast.com/episodes/how-plants-absorb-living-microbes-and-convert-soil-pathogens-into-beneficials-with-james-white-2/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">How Plant Absorb Living Microbes and Convert Soil Pathogens into Beneficials </a></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">And read some of Dr. White's research papers on Research Gate: </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://www.researchgate.net/profile/James-White-31">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/James-White-31</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p><strong>WANT TO LEARN MORE?</strong> </p> <p>Join the <a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/"><strong>Regenerative Flower Farmers Network (RFFN) for just $20/year</strong> if you'd like to continue the conversation on topics covered in this episode.</a></p> <p>You'll also gain access to lots of helpful articles, discussion boards, and online courses. </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>On-demand Online Courses for Farmers Available on RFFN: </strong></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/356943?bundle_token=3c34f8cb0a4631393c9c55796ed7edf9&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Foliage for the Win</strong></a></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/356851?bundle_token=47b0c3257d98fe9c49805683de93f14f&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Successful Flower CSAs and Subscriptions</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/361148?bundle_token=767d4a55fc6e9f21d5f92d6879f9059b&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">CREW: Hiring and Managing</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/1471740?bundle_token=e928096de30fb6cfd3b22838bec97aae&utm_source=manual"> Simple Steps to Better Marketing</a></strong></li> </ul> <p class="MsoNormal">Tap into the above courses and resources any time you need. These are available on-demand through the Regenerative Flower Farmers Network. </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong> </strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>>>> F<a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/366037?bundle_token=37710511400c4badd685fa845a8f6a7e&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">OR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, GET 3 SHORT COURSES FOR $300.</a> <<< </strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>Past episodes that discuss soil health and biomes for further listening include:</strong></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Episdoe 29: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/nutrient-balancing-in-living-soils-with-bryan-mason-the-soil-doctor" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Nutrient Balancing in Living Soils with Bryan Mason</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Episode 34: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/why-i-love-to-spray-at-my-farm-boosting-the-phyllosphere" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Why I Love to Spray at My Farm: Boosting the Phyllosphere</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Episode 17: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/exploring-the-science-behind-natural-farm-inputs-with-author-nigel-palmer">Natural Inputs with Nigel Palmer</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Episode 15: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/a-little-goes-a-long-way-in-regenerative-flower-farming-knf-and-jadam-with-tony-gaetz-of-bare-mountain-farm">Korean Natural Farming and JADAM in Flower Farming with Tony Gaetz of Bare Mountain Farm</a></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">HAVE IDEAS AND FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PODCAST? Share your opinions in <strong><a href= "https://forms.gle/Qnhazd6KC9RyN3oD9">this brief survey.</a></strong> </p> <p class="MsoNormal">As always, if you appreciate this podcast and all the education it provides, <strong>please take a moment out of your day to rate and write a review</strong> for it on <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-no-till-flowers-podcast/id1545850888">Apple Podcasts</a> or wherever you are listening to it. </p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
January 22, 2025
<p>In today's episode, we are replaying an interview that originally aired on <strong><a href= "https://www.theflowerpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">The Flower Podcast</a></strong>, where host Scott Shepherd interviewed yours truly, <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/notillflowers/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Jennie Love</a>, about regenerative flower farming. This seemed like a great conversation to include in the archives here on No-Till Flowers. Deep gratitude to Scott for sharing it with us! </p> <p>Be sure to follow <a href="https://www.theflowerpodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>The Flower Podcast</strong></a> for more great flora-focused conversations. </p> <p>And there are new fresh episodes coming soon! A few guests got hit with the flu and it's pushed back our production schedule. But we're getting everything rescheduled and will be hitting the air soon with those!</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>WANT TO LEARN MORE?</strong> </p> <p>Join the <a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/"><strong>Regenerative Flower Farmers Network (RFFN) for just $20/year</strong> if you'd like to continue the conversation on topics covered in this episode.</a></p> <p>You'll also gain access to lots of helpful articles, discussion boards, and online courses. </p> <p><strong>On-demand Short Courses for Farmers on RFFN: </strong></p> <ul type="disc"> <li class="MsoNormal"><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/356943?bundle_token=3c34f8cb0a4631393c9c55796ed7edf9&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><strong>Foliage for the Win</strong></a></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/356851?bundle_token=47b0c3257d98fe9c49805683de93f14f&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Successful Flower CSAs and Subscriptions</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/361148?bundle_token=767d4a55fc6e9f21d5f92d6879f9059b&utm_source=manual" target="_blank" rel="noopener">CREW: Hiring and Managing</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/plans/1471740?bundle_token=e928096de30fb6cfd3b22838bec97aae&utm_source=manual"> Simple Steps to Better Marketing</a></strong></li> <li class="MsoNormal"><strong>Woodies: Playing the Long Game (coming in February 2025)</strong></li> </ul> <p>Tap into the above courses and resources any time you need. These are available on-demand through the Regenerative Flower Farmers Network. Current RFFN members shoud follow <strong><a href= "https://regenerativeflowerfarmersnetwork.org/collections/918017">this link</a></strong> to access the Short Courses at the discounted member rate. </p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Past episodes for further learning about regenerative farming practices include:</strong></p> <p>Episdoe 29: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/nutrient-balancing-in-living-soils-with-bryan-mason-the-soil-doctor" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Nutrient Balancing in Living Soils with Bryan Mason</a></p> <p>Episode 34: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/why-i-love-to-spray-at-my-farm-boosting-the-phyllosphere" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Why I Love to Spray at My Farm: Boosting the Phyllosphere</a></p> <p>Episode 17: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/exploring-the-science-behind-natural-farm-inputs-with-author-nigel-palmer">Natural Inputs with Nigel Palmer</a></p> <p>Episode 15: <a href= "https://notillflowers.libsyn.com/a-little-goes-a-long-way-in-regenerative-flower-farming-knf-and-jadam-with-tony-gaetz-of-bare-mountain-farm">Korean Natural Farming and JADAM in Flower Farming with Tony Gaetz of Bare Mountain Farm</a></p> <p> </p> <p>HAVE IDEAS AND FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PODCAST? Share your opinions in <strong><a href= "https://forms.gle/Qnhazd6KC9RyN3oD9">this brief survey.</a></strong> </p> <p>As always, if you appreciate this podcast and all the education it provides, <strong>please take a moment out of your day to rate and write a review</strong> for it on <a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-no-till-flowers-podcast/id1545850888">Apple Podcasts</a> or wherever you are listening to it. </p>
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