by Plum Village
This podcast series is aimed at helping us to transcend our fear and anger so that we can be more engaged in the world in a way that develops love and compassion. Thich Nhat Hanh’s calligraphy ‘The Way Out Is In” highlights that the way out of any difficulty is to look deeply within, gain insights and then put them into practice. "The Way Out is In" is co-hosted by Brother Phap Huu, Thich Nhat Hanh's personal attendant for 17 years and the abbot of Plum Village's Upper Hamlet, and Jo Confino, who works at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change. The podcast is co-produced by the Plum Village App and Global Optimism, with support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation.
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June 28, 2024
<p>Welcome to episode 70 of <em>The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living</em>, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master <a href="https://plumvillage.org/about/thich-nhat-hanh/">Thich Nhat Hanh</a>’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives.</p> <p>We’re delighted to be able to share with you this special two-part installment, recorded in June 2024 at the recent Plum Village retreat, <em>Ancient Path for Modern Times</em>.</p> <p>This is the first recording of a panel discussion based loosely around the 14 mindfulness trainings – Thich Nhat Hanh’s ethical guidelines for living, a modern distillation of the traditional Bodhisattva precepts of Mahayana Buddhism. The trainings are followed by monastics and lay friends who have made a a formal vow to receive, study, and observe them. </p> <p>In the panel, you will hear two of our frequent guests, <a href="https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/sister-hien-nghiem"><strong>Sister True Dedication</strong></a> (Sister Hien Nghiem) and<strong> </strong><a href="https://www.globaloptimism.com/christiana-figueres"><strong>Christiana Figueres</strong></a>, as well as Dharma teacher <a href="https://ahimsatrust.org/dharmacharya-shantum/"><strong>Shantum Seth</strong></a>.</p> <p>These three panelists explore how the Buddha faced war and violence in his own time; the principle of <em>ahimsa</em> and Gandhian nonviolence; handling anger, despair, and burnout as activists; practicing in times of polarization and division; insights around the victim-perpetrator dynamic; sanghas as sanctuaries, and their role in activism; different aspects of engaged Buddhism and its evolution over time; the spiritual dimension of change; and much more. And does anger help?</p> <p><a href="https://www.globaloptimism.com/christiana-figueres"><strong>Christiana Figueres</strong></a>, one of the architects of the Paris Climate Agreement in 2015, was a student of Thich Nhat Hanh and is a valued member of the Plum Village Sangha. Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) from 2010 to 2016, she is also the co-founder of Global Optimism, co-host of the <em>Outrage + Optimism</em> podcast, and co-author of the bestselling <a href="https://www.globaloptimism.com/the-future-we-choose"><em>The Future We Choose: Surviving the Climate Crisis</em></a>. </p> <p><a href="https://ahimsatrust.org/dharmacharya-shantum/"><strong>Shantum Seth</strong></a>, an ordained Dharmacharya (Dharma teacher) in the Buddhist Mindfulness lineage of Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh, teaches in India and across the world. A co-founder of Ahimsa Trust, he has been a student of Thich Nhat Hanh’s teachings for the past 35 years. Since 1988, he has led pilgrimages and other multi-faith, educational, cultural, spiritual, and transformative journeys across diverse regions of India and Asia. He is actively involved in educational, social, and ecological programmes, including work on cultivating mindfulness in society, including with educators, the Indian Central Reserve Police Force, and the corporate sector. Across various Indian sanghas, Dharmacharya Shantum is the primary teacher of different practices of mindfulness from Thich Nhat Hanh’s tradition.<br><br>Thank you for listening, and enjoy!</p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p>Co-produced by the Plum Village App:<br><a href="https://plumvillage.app/">https://plumvillage.app/</a> </p> <p>And Global Optimism:<br><a href="https://globaloptimism.com/">https://globaloptimism.com/</a> </p> <p>With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:<br><a href="https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/">https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/</a></p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p><strong>List of resources </strong></p> <p>Interbeing<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing</a> </p> <p>The Fourteen Mindfulness Trainings<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/the-14-mindfulness-trainings">https://plumvillage.org/mindfulness/the-14-mindfulness-trainings</a> </p> <p>Mahayana<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana</a> </p> <p>Bodhisattva vow<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva_vow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva_vow</a> </p> <p>Magadha<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magadha</a> </p> <p>Kosala<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosala">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosala</a> </p> <p>Ahimsa<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahimsa">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahimsa</a><br><br>Mahavira<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavira">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavira</a><br><br>Patanjali<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patanjali">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patanjali</a> </p> <p>Mahatma Gandhi<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi</a> </p> <p>Jan Smuts<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Smuts">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Smuts</a> </p> <p>Sister Chan Duc<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/sr-chan-duc">https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/sr-chan-duc</a> </p> <p>Sister Chan Khong<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/about/sister-chan-khong">https://plumvillage.org/about/sister-chan-khong</a> </p> <p>Paris Peace Accords<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords</a> </p> <p>The European Institute of Applied Buddhism (EIAB)<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/practice-centre/eiab">https://plumvillage.org/practice-centre/eiab</a> </p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p><strong>Quotes</strong></p> <p>“I need to find a way of <em>being </em>peace, not just fighting <em>for </em>peace.”</p> <p>“There’s no teaching as clear as ‘no mud, no lotus’, because that is the kernel of transformation. And if we can all give that to ourselves every day, then we can make space for the despair and the anger and maybe even the hatred. And, at the same time, be able to make space for the reconciliation and for the growth in our shared humanity.”</p> <p>“What has always been important for me, as a guidance, is to understand that, because of the truth of interbeing, we all play a role. We all have our different positions, our different opinions, our different interests, and they’re all necessary.”</p> <p>“I wake up, honestly, most mornings, despairing at what I’m seeing. The question for me, then, is: do I let that control my day? Do I let that control my thought, my word, and my action? Or do I use the despair as the very rich mud to transform into the lotus?” </p> <p> “I know the reasons for anger. And if anger is directed at me it’s probably a good direction, because it means that it won’t be reflected back.” </p> <p>“Whatever is in me, I mirror out there in the world. Whatever I do has an effect on the world. The other option is to let the world determine what goes on inside me. I did that for many years, and it doesn’t lead to good results. So the invitation is to actually take responsibility. What is the world in here doing, and how do I reflect that onto the outside world?”</p> <p>“If you can still see that the flowers are smiling, you’re okay.”</p> <p>“True mindfulness or right mindfulness always contains ethics within it. And if it doesn’t have ethics in it, like, for example, using mindfulness to hold a gun and pull the trigger, then, actually, that’s not mindfulness. That would just be concentration or focus. Mindfulness is your whole being, including the ethical values that are there in the present moment.”</p> <p>“You could send all the bombs to the moon, but the roots of war would still be in our hearts and minds.”</p> <p>“The way we show up, the quality of our presence – whether it’s teachers or leaders in politics, the climate movement, our own organizations, or in our families – that quality of applied mindfulness in our presence is our engagement, and that’s what the world needs most.”</p> <p>“Don’t underestimate the power of our applied mindfulness, the quality of our presence in the most simple moments. That is how we can take our civilization in the right direction.”</p>
May 16, 2024
<p>Welcome to episode 69 of <em>The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living</em>, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master <a href="https://plumvillage.org/about/thich-nhat-hanh/">Thich Nhat Hanh</a>’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives.</p> <p>With Zen Buddhist monk <a href="https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/br-phap-huu/">Brother Phap Huu</a> away, leadership coach/journalist <a href="https://www.instagram.com/joconfino/?hl=en">Jo Confino</a> holds the fort with a special episode about the art of land regeneration, happy farming, and reconnecting deeply to nature. This time, Jo is joined by special guests and happy farmers <a href="https://www.parallax.org/authors/mick-mcevoy/">Mick McEvoy</a> and <a href="https://plumvillage.org/articles/learning-to-love-and-live">Sister Trang Lam Hy</a> (Sister Forest of Joy), two of the people behind <a href="https://plumvillage.org/community/happy-farm">the Happy Farms agroecology project</a> in Plum Village.<br><br>The conversation touches upon many topics, from Zen philosophies, the Diamond Sutra, and deep ecology, to seasonal planting and practicing mindfulness while working the land; producing food AND caring for the Earth; collective awakening and beginning anew; empathy for our food;<strong> </strong>reclaiming the nobility of the farmer; the importance of growing (beautiful) vegetables in a time of polycrisis – even in small quantities; land regeneration and Zen Buddhism; Thich Nhat Hanh’s gardening metaphors; and more.<br><br>Enjoy and thank you for listening!</p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p>Co-produced by the Plum Village App:<br><a href="https://plumvillage.app/">https://plumvillage.app/</a> </p> <p>And Global Optimism:<br><a href="https://globaloptimism.com/">https://globaloptimism.com/</a> </p> <p>With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:<br><a href="https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/">https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/</a></p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p><strong>List of resources </strong></p> <p>The Happy Harm<br><a href="https://thehappyfarm.org/">https://thehappyfarm.org/</a> </p> <p>Interbeing<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing</a><br><br>‘The Five Earth Touchings’<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/key-practice-texts/the-five-earth-touchings">https://plumvillage.org/key-practice-texts/the-five-earth-touchings</a><br><br><em>Happy Farms</em>: ‘Reverence for the Land’<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/articles/reverence-for-the-land">https://plumvillage.org/articles/reverence-for-the-land</a> </p> <p>‘Happy Farm: Rewilding – Healing, Regeneration, and Transformation for the Land’<br><a href="https://www.parallax.org/mindfulnessbell/article/happy-farm-rewilding/">https://www.parallax.org/mindfulnessbell/article/happy-farm-rewilding/</a> </p> <p><em>Sutras</em>: ‘The Diamond That Cuts through Illusion’<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/library/sutras/the-diamond-that-cuts-through-illusion">https://plumvillage.org/library/sutras/the-diamond-that-cuts-through-illusion</a><br><br><em>Dharma Talks</em>: ‘Free from Notions: The Diamond Sutra’<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/free-from-notions-the-diamond-sutra">https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/free-from-notions-the-diamond-sutra</a> </p> <p>Deep ecology<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology</a> </p> <p>Vandana Shiva<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandana_Shiva">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandana_Shiva</a> </p> <p>Grow It Yourself<br><a href="https://giy.ie/">https://giy.ie/</a> </p> <p><em>Eating Meditation</em><br><a href="https://web.plumvillage.app/meditations/eating-meditation">https://web.plumvillage.app/meditations/eating-meditation</a><br><br>Mary Oliver<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Oliver">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Oliver</a><br><br>The Bodhi Tree<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi_Tree">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi_Tree</a> </p> <p>Global North and Global South<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South</a> <br><br><em>Braiding Sweetgrass</em><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braiding_Sweetgrass">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braiding_Sweetgrass</a></p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p><strong>Quotes</strong></p> <p>“I can pivot 360 degrees, and I can see countless examples of what Thich Nhat Hanh refers to as interbeing, this interconnectedness of all life.” </p> <p>“Happy Farm literally grounds people in [mindfulness] practice.”</p> <p>“We are the Earth that carries us.”</p> <p>“Go home to nature and let nature heal you.”</p> <p>“Thay was a revolutionary to bring the community of humans, the community of practice, out into the forest to practice walking meditation every day. And that is so unique and healing in and of itself.”</p> <p>“We’re probably the first generation, at least in the Global North, that have been separated in our choices, and how our communities and cultures have evolved to be separate from the gifts and knowledge of how to grow some of our own food. And in rediscovering how to do that, we took a lot from and have a lot of reverence for the ancestors: our blood ancestors, our family, our spiritual ancestors, and our land ancestors, those who lived on these lands. And many people lived on these lands here, in Plum Village, going way back into historical times when people hunted in these valleys or farmed these lands. And all our neighbors around us still farm these lands, not just on the Happy Farm.” </p> <p>“Vandana Shiva says that the most important thing we can do at this time is start a food garden and be soil builders; that’s why, on the Happy Farm, we’re definitely soil builders.”</p> <p>“We’re all flowers in the garden of life.”</p> <p>“The weeds don’t take a lazy day, like we do” </p> <p>“It’s not about the carrots, it’s about the collective awakening.”</p> <p>“There is no way to harvest; to harvest is the way.” </p> <p>“We can harvest insights and collective awareness and joy and happiness during every moment of being together as a farming family, living within the community. So it’s not just waiting until the endgame, until we bring the harvest home; every moment with consciousness and intention and awareness and choice is a moment to harvest.” </p> <p>“When conditions are sufficient, things will manifest. And when conditions are no longer sufficient, things will cease to manifest.”</p> <p>“We take for granted our food, but by growing it, we can dissolve that sense of apathy and inherently create a sense of empathy for our food, which can then ripple out beyond the food we eat ourselves, into our global food systems, our global food economy.” </p>
May 2, 2024
<p>Welcome to episode 68 of <em>The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living</em>, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master <a href="https://plumvillage.org/about/thich-nhat-hanh/">Thich Nhat Hanh</a>’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives.</p> <p>In this episode, Zen Buddhist monk <a href="https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/br-phap-huu/">Brother Phap Huu</a> and leadership coach/journalist <a href="https://www.instagram.com/joconfino/?hl=en">Jo Confino</a> discuss Right Livelihood in Buddhism. After starting with what this means, they dive more deeply into practical steps and examples. How can we find joy, feel deeply connected, and also make a positive impact on the world through our daily work?</p> <p>The conversation also touches upon ‘bringing our cosmic body to work’; the insight of responsibility; the difference between doing what we love and doing what we’re good at; ego and compassion in the workplace; planning for the future while being in the present; and much more. </p> <p>The episode ends with a short meditation guided by Brother Phap Huu.</p> <p>Enjoy and thank you for listening!</p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p>Co-produced by the Plum Village App:<br><a href="https://plumvillage.app/">https://plumvillage.app/</a></p> <p>And Global Optimism:<br><a href="https://globaloptimism.com/">https://globaloptimism.com/</a> </p> <p>With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:<br><a href="https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/">https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/</a></p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p><strong>List of resources </strong></p> <p>Interbeing<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing</a> </p> <p><em>Dharma Talks:</em> ‘Right Livelihood and True Love’ <br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/right-livelihood-and-true-love">https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/right-livelihood-and-true-love</a> </p> <p><em>Dharma Talks</em>: ‘The Noble Eightfold Path’<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/the-noble-eightfold-path">https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/the-noble-eightfold-path</a> </p> <p>Koan<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koan">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koan</a> </p> <p><em>Dharma Talks:</em> ‘Our Cosmic Body’<br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/our-cosmic-body">https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/our-cosmic-body</a> </p> <p><em>Buddha Mind, Buddha Body</em><br><a href="https://www.parallax.org/product/buddha-mind-buddha-body/">https://www.parallax.org/product/buddha-mind-buddha-body/</a> </p> <p>Sister True Dedication<br><a href="https://www.instagram.com/sistertruededication/">https://www.instagram.com/sistertruededication/</a> </p> <p><em>The Art of Living</em><br><a href="https://plumvillage.org/books/the-art-of-living">https://plumvillage.org/books/the-art-of-living</a></p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity" /> <p><strong>Quotes</strong></p> <p>“Each and every one of us has a spiritual dimension inside that we can generate wherever we go, and that is a contribution to what we want to build.” </p> <p>“By <em>being</em> we <em>do</em> more effectively.”</p> <p>“Don’t just do something, sit there.”</p> <p>“Time is being, time is to be alive.”</p> <p>“When you have anger, it can be a bell of mindfulness that tells us when we see injustice, when we see suffering. And we can be with that anger. And that anger can become a voice for us, to have empathy, to have compassion. Because compassion can come from anger sometimes. It can come from what we’re seeing, because it tells us that this is wrong. But if we allow anger to always be there and not transform, and we don’t channel it into another energy, then we will become one with exactly that outer energy that made us angry in the first place.”</p> <p>“Sometimes silence is the loudest noise.”</p> <p>“Why not be soft? Why not be kinder? That softness and that kindness are very loud in a moment of big aggression. The kindness, the softness becomes a louder action because it shows our humanity; it shows the heart of love.”</p> <p>“Thay emphasized that all of us have a Buddha body. We have [the potential for] awakening inside of us – we just have to cultivate it. And there are moments that we’re not a Buddha. That’s okay. But remember that we have Buddha nature inside of us.” </p> <p>“Thay had a calligraphy that really informs us about deep interbeing: ‘The piece of bread in your hands is the body of the whole cosmos.’ And that is for us to have a deep understanding that this piece of bread didn’t just come from nowhere, nothing. It’s the whole lifetime of the existence of time and space. And it’s a miracle to have this piece of bread. So be grateful. Hold it with gratitude. Hold it with reverence. Eat it with gratitude. Eat it with reverence.”</p>
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