by 这集我看过基地
由两位世界史研究者发起的一档播客，从世界各地的热门年代剧出发，畅聊“这集”背后的历史话题。在这里，我们与喜欢看剧的学者朋友们对话，回味古今共享的叙事、探索人类历史的角落、触发跨越时代的灵光。
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April 13, 2025
<figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fti20ew2c-pgSbniWCRaEbaMoMWk.jpg"></figure><p>本期我们邀请了专注城市空间的播客<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/5ec82424418a84a04628f7a9">“城市罐头”</a>的两位主播一起来吐槽奥斯卡获奖新片《粗野派》。什么是建筑史中的“粗野主义”？片中备受摧残的犹太建筑师角色（阿德里安•布罗迪饰）有原型吗？粗野主义在美国、英国和苏联经历了什么？特朗普为什么讨厌粗野主义建筑？让我们一起看看这部虚构建筑史电影及其背后折射出的美国移民史。</p><p><strong>嘉宾</strong></p><p>Yao，小王，焦姣，徐天</p><p><strong>时间轴</strong></p><p>1:36 电影主角有历史原型吗？</p><p>10:06 为什么二战后建筑师求职不难</p><p>12:18 移民找亲戚的设定</p><p>15:42 1948年的流亡者法案</p><p>20:29 剧本是难民、种族议题缝合怪</p><p>29:36 什么是粗野主义？</p><p>33:22 片名双关，但与建筑史不大相关</p><p>36:23 粗野主义的滥用和误用</p><p>45:19 为什么片中的教堂建筑有AI感？</p><p>48:12 波士顿市政厅：粗野派建筑及其改造</p><p>59:07 粗野派建筑内部冰冷是刻板印象？</p><p>65:03 特朗普不喜欢粗野主义</p><p>69:03 美国新古典主义建筑寻根</p><p>71:34 如果给主角换个职业，这个故事还成立吗</p><p>75:28 安兰德比这部主创更尊重建筑师群体</p><p>79:27 美国粗野主义是“练习生玩摇滚”</p><p>81:38 谁是粗野主义者？</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FsxwwiWu__AvrKscHfuFcKz41cgB.png"></figure><p>曾被评为美国“第二丑”建筑的波士顿市政厅 | 图源：网络</p><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fkj0KmXLDGgP1fTXWJM30ebxdMxm.png"></figure><p>波士顿市政厅广场更新项目效果图 | Credit:Sasaki</p><p><strong>嘉宾推荐</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://book.douban.com/subject/34884956/">Michael Kimmage, The Abandonment of the West</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/1299716/">源泉（1949）</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://movie.douban.com/subject/3275168/">单身男子（2009）</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.douban.com/game/26935092/">极乐迪斯科 Disco Elysium </a></p><p><strong>结尾曲：</strong>Kick in the Eye by Bauhaus</p><p>视觉设计 | 王嘉文@不含观点°</p><p>剪辑 | Libing</p><p>运营 | KKK芸</p><p><strong>您可以通过以下途径收听到我们的节目</strong></p><ul><li><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://feed.xyzfm.space/j7d9mlny9ea6">节目RSS链接</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/cn/podcast/%E8%BF%99%E9%9B%86%E6%88%91%E7%9C%8B%E8%BF%87/id1651572616">Apple Podcast</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.xyzfm.link/vdc98">小宇宙</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/31hb1TZ35CzDktf00I0plt">Spotify</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://xima.tv/1_Xe68Dx?_sonic=0">喜马拉雅</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://c6.y.qq.com/base/fcgi-bin/u?__=j0OfO0Nnh5b7">QQ音乐</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://music.163.com/radio/983243612?userid=1358189948">网易云音乐</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://m.lizhi.fm/vod/voicesheet/5273475822412546113?u=5274039092360355372">荔枝FM</a>/<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.douban.com/doubanapp/dispatch?uri=/podcast/36733414/">豆瓣播客</a></p></li></ul><p>欢迎加入“这集我看过”微信听友群：微信搜索并添加“这集我看过”小助手:zjwkg_xzs</p>
March 1, 2025
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January 24, 2025
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